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                        <title>RE: GRG - Recent Validations</title>
                        <link>https://globalsupercentenarianforum.com/index.php/community/grgvalidations/grg-recent-validations/paged/17/#post-43886</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2026 17:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@billy-robinson Yes, I remember when they moved a bunch of cases to that list of unvalidated cases. What I don&#039;t know is why they didn&#039;t just move all the cases they hadn&#039;t researched yet to...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@billy-robinson Yes, I remember when they moved a bunch of cases to that list of unvalidated cases. What I don't know is why they didn't just move all the cases they hadn't researched yet to that list as soon as possible - why list a case as validated if you haven't researched or validated them yet? That would have saved them the embarrassment of having to devalidate dozens of cases over the course of over a year now. </p>
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<p>If any organization is allegedly hijacked and their work product compromised, they shouldn't pretend as if their output is all normal, but correct it as soon as possible. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: GRG - Recent Validations</title>
                        <link>https://globalsupercentenarianforum.com/index.php/community/grgvalidations/grg-recent-validations/paged/17/#post-43885</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2026 14:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@ale76, @billy-robinson and @musicotic Couldn&#039;t agree more, the entire way this case was handled couldn&#039;t be worse, it is beyond unprofessional. And the &quot;excuse&quot; of these more doubtful cases...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[@ale76, @billy-robinson and @musicotic Couldn't agree more, the entire way this case was handled couldn't be worse, it is beyond unprofessional. And the "excuse" of these more doubtful cases having been added by a former member should just be more of a reason for there to be an official de-validation, in my opinion.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: GRG - Recent Validations</title>
                        <link>https://globalsupercentenarianforum.com/index.php/community/grgvalidations/grg-recent-validations/paged/17/#post-43877</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2026 11:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[They have a list of unvalidated supercentenarians (who were added by this member) and there&#039;s a lot of people on that list, so they&#039;ve clearly removed A LOT of the &quot;validations&quot;, but it was ...]]></description>
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<p>@billy-robinson They should have removed all the uncertain validations ASAP rather than remove them one by one when they decide to research the case. The validate first, research later model is just very unprofessional.</p>
<p> They have a list of unvalidated supercentenarians (who were added by this member) and there's a lot of people on that list, so they've clearly removed A LOT of the "validations", but it was obviously done at a slow process.</p>
<p>The GRG has definitely messed up really badly with this "validate first and then research" process because of this one member, but I always hope for the best for LQ and the GRG, but obviously a lot of members are skeptical about the latter (for valid reasons that I do know obviously). Not every organisation is 100% perfect, the GRG certainly isn't perfect.</p>
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                        <title>RE: GRG - Recent Validations</title>
                        <link>https://globalsupercentenarianforum.com/index.php/community/grgvalidations/grg-recent-validations/paged/17/#post-43876</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2026 10:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@billy-robinson They should have removed all the uncertain validations ASAP rather than remove them one by one when they decide to research the case. The validate first, research later model...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[@billy-robinson They should have removed all the uncertain validations ASAP rather than remove them one by one when they decide to research the case. The validate first, research later model is just very unprofessional.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: GRG - Recent Validations</title>
                        <link>https://globalsupercentenarianforum.com/index.php/community/grgvalidations/grg-recent-validations/paged/17/#post-43874</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2026 08:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[The GRG stated that most of these &quot;validations&quot; were just added by an ex-member of the GRG, which is why all these de-validations are going on, but I agree, they definitely should&#039;ve release...]]></description>
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<p><span>GRG validated Julia Maria Francisca Simao (BRA, 116? 115? 114? under 110?...who knows...) on September 2024. </span></p>
<p><span>It would appear that the GRG validation has been recently retracted (she no longer appears on the 2024 validation list).</span></p>
<p><span>As someone said, if the GRG retracted the validation, then they need to come out with a press release stating the reason why. They can't just silently devalidate a high-aged case like this under the radar.</span></p>
<p><span>They removed her validation, in the future another similar claimant will get validation status for a period and the cycle repeats.</span></p>
<p>Shame on them, as usual.</p>
 The GRG stated that most of these "validations" were just added by an ex-member of the GRG, which is why all these de-validations are going on, but I agree, they definitely should've released a news article about her considering her high claimed age.
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                        <title>RE: GRG - Recent Validations</title>
                        <link>https://globalsupercentenarianforum.com/index.php/community/grgvalidations/grg-recent-validations/paged/17/#post-43870</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2026 07:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[GRG validated Julia Maria Francisca Simao (BRA, 116? 115? 114? under 110?...who knows...) on September 2024. 
It would appear that the GRG validation has been recently retracted (she no lon...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>GRG validated Julia Maria Francisca Simao (BRA, 116? 115? 114? under 110?...who knows...) on September 2024. </span></p>
<p><span>It would appear that the GRG validation has been recently retracted (she no longer appears on the 2024 validation list).</span></p>
<p><span>As someone said, if the GRG retracted the validation, then they need to come out with a press release stating the reason why. They can't just silently devalidate a high-aged case like this under the radar.</span></p>
<p><span>They removed her validation, in the future another similar claimant will get validation status for a period and the cycle repeats.</span></p>
<p>Shame on them, as usual.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: GRG - Recent Validations</title>
                        <link>https://globalsupercentenarianforum.com/index.php/community/grgvalidations/grg-recent-validations/paged/17/#post-27898</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2025 02:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[By that criteria, a lot of 1880s-born US SCs also have shaky validations if they have nothing (or at least nothing which gives their age/date/month/year of birth) from before the 1900 US Cen...]]></description>
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<p>@chrisr Burks lacks a 1910 census, which means that the validation is a bit uncertain. 1920 census and marriage record both support 1903.</p>
<p>Jordan has a 1900 census which support her age and a marriage record from 1898 that gives no age, so it is also a bit shaky.</p>
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<p>By that criteria, a lot of 1880s-born US SCs also have shaky validations if they have nothing (or at least nothing which gives their age/date/month/year of birth) from before the 1900 US Census, no?</p>
<p>Philip Sharp's validation would also be shaky by this logic since AFAIK he and his family don't appear to be listed in the 1910 US Census for whatever reason. And of course Charles Edward Graves's validation would also be shaky because he and his family are not listed in the 1900 US Census for whatever reason, though they do have a somewhat ambiguous but still relatively clear 1896 Mississippi school census entry for them.</p>
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                        <title>RE: GRG - Recent Validations</title>
                        <link>https://globalsupercentenarianforum.com/index.php/community/grgvalidations/grg-recent-validations/paged/17/#post-26550</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2025 17:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Yes, you&#039;re right. For Delphia, it&#039;s clear that a significantly higher age was correct relative to the age that she claimed. It was just a matter of determining just how much higher, as you ...]]></description>
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<p>@futurist the difference for Delphia Welford is that all of those ages are already inconsistent with her claimed age, so it matters more what the greatest preponderance of the evidence implies (indeed there are only a few of the early records that don't suggest 117). The other cases (bar Joe Hollins), there is only a one year age difference between the claimed age and what some records imply, giving a greater chance for age rounding or just flat-out census errors to give a false impression of a discrepancy.</p>
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<p>Yes, you're right. For Delphia, it's clear that a significantly higher age was correct relative to the age that she claimed. It was just a matter of determining just how much higher, as you said.</p>
<p>For Joe Willie Hollins, it's quite interesting: His WWII draft registration card and his obituary both imply a final age of 112y,35d for him, but not his two earliest records/documents, which imply a final age of 114 or 115 for him. But his siblings were not unequivocally consistent about their claimed ages during their lifetimes, so that still creates some margin of error in regards to this. It's a huge shame that an original birth record and/or baptismal record does not exist for him, at least to our own knowledge.</p>
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                        <title>RE: GRG - Recent Validations</title>
                        <link>https://globalsupercentenarianforum.com/index.php/community/grgvalidations/grg-recent-validations/paged/17/#post-26549</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2025 12:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@futurist the difference for Delphia Welford is that all of those ages are already inconsistent with her claimed age, so it matters more what the greatest preponderance of the evidence impli...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[@futurist the difference for Delphia Welford is that all of those ages are already inconsistent with her claimed age, so it matters more what the greatest preponderance of the evidence implies (indeed there are only a few of the early records that don't suggest 117). The other cases (bar Joe Hollins), there is only a one year age difference between the claimed age and what some records imply, giving a greater chance for age rounding or just flat-out census errors to give a false impression of a discrepancy.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: GRG - Recent Validations</title>
                        <link>https://globalsupercentenarianforum.com/index.php/community/grgvalidations/grg-recent-validations/paged/17/#post-26545</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2025 04:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Similarly, for Delphia Welford, there is evidence for 117, 116, and 115 from her early-life, though with the strongest evidence for 117.
I wonder if they&#039;ll similarly decide to upgrade Joe ...]]></description>
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<p>There tends to be evidence for both 114 and 113, as people will know.</p>
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<p>Similarly, for Delphia Welford, there is evidence for 117, 116, and 115 from her early-life, though with the strongest evidence for 117.</p>
<p>I wonder if they'll similarly decide to upgrade Joe Willie Hollins's birth year to 1904 and his final age to 114y,35d because his 1910 and 1920 US Census entries both imply that he was 2-3 years older than he claimed, and he claimed a final age of 112y,35d.</p>
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