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                        <title>RE: Oldest Living Men in Portugal (Age 105+)</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2026 20:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hahaha, you&#039;re welcome.I think a thread for unusual names could definitely be created—it’s a really interesting topic. There are some very unique names out there that I’d love to know about....]]></description>
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<p>@diego Thank you so much for sharing those, they are some amazingly bizarre names, I confess I laughed so hard at some of those. For some reason, Vicente Mais ou Menos de Souza really gets to me, because if you take out the "Mais ou Menos", it's such a normal name. &#x1f923; (I wonder if this Vicente had something like ambiguous paternity at play, hence the "Mais ou Menos de Souza"?  &#x1f606;)</p>
<p>(Also, if you'd like, we could create an unusual/strange names thread, I certainly have some gems I've found during my years of genealogical and (super)centenarian research, from the pre-strict naming laws era.)</p>
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<p>Hahaha, you're welcome.<br />I think a thread for unusual names could definitely be created—it’s a really interesting topic. There are some very unique names out there that I’d love to know about.</p>
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                        <title>RE: Oldest Living Men in Portugal (Age 105+)</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2026 10:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@diego Thank you so much for sharing those, they are some amazingly bizarre names, I confess I laughed so hard at some of those. For some reason, Vicente Mais ou Menos de Souza really gets t...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@diego Thank you so much for sharing those, they are some amazingly bizarre names, I confess I laughed so hard at some of those. For some reason, Vicente Mais ou Menos de Souza really gets to me, because if you take out the "Mais ou Menos", it's such a normal name. &#x1f923; (I wonder if this Vicente had something like ambiguous paternity at play, hence the "Mais ou Menos de Souza"?  &#x1f606;)</p>
<p>(Also, if you'd like, we could create an unusual/strange names thread, I certainly have some gems I've found during my years of genealogical and (super)centenarian research, from the pre-strict naming laws era.)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Oldest Living Men in Portugal (Age 105+)</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2026 02:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Yes, you&#039;re right; we don&#039;t have strict laws regarding names here—only names that might cause the person embarrassment are prohibited (a law passed in 1973), and the registrar makes the call...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you're right; we don't have strict laws regarding names here—only names that might cause the person embarrassment are prohibited (a law passed in 1973), and the registrar makes the call.<br />Still, it is possible to have bizarre names like *Último Vaqueiro* (Last Cowboy), *Um Dois Três de Oliveira Quatro* (One Two Three de Oliveira Four), or *Vicente Mais ou Menos de Souza* (Vicente More-or-Less de Souza).<br />Well, I'd better send you a link with these names—believe me, they are real.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.lagoasanta.com.br/foclorio/nomes_estranhos.htm">nomes estranhos (lagoasanta.com.br)</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Oldest Living Men in Portugal (Age 105+)</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 09:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@diego If I remember correctly, Brazil&#039;s naming laws aren&#039;t as strict, so you can still have children named &quot;Manoel&quot;, &quot;Izabel&quot;, etc. over there in the present day. Over here, naming laws are...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[@diego If I remember correctly, Brazil's naming laws aren't as strict, so you can still have children named "Manoel", "Izabel", etc. over there in the present day. Over here, naming laws are stricter and we have a list of allowed names (in fact, the first list of this kind was created in 1911, during the time of the First Portuguese Republic, but I believe that particular list has been lost to posterity), that does <em>not</em> include archaic spellings such as "Manoel" or "Izabel", just the modern ones ("Manuel" and "Isabel" regarding these specific examples I noted, but there are many more, of course).]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Oldest Living Men in Portugal (Age 105+)</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2026 20:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[You&#039;re absolutely right about that; in fact, many people here consider &quot;Manuel&quot; archaic and think &quot;Manoel&quot; is the more correct spelling.These spelling differences are often due to the clerks...]]></description>
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<p>I've always found it so interesting how you (a generalised "you", I mean) there in Brazil kept the archaic spellings of so many names and surnames ("Manoel" instead of Manuel", "Souza" instead of "Sousa", etc.). Over here, the archaic form "Manoel" is no longer in use.</p>
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<p>You're absolutely right about that; in fact, many people here consider "Manuel" archaic and think "Manoel" is the more correct spelling.<br />These spelling differences are often due to the clerks, as many make mistakes when writing down the name.<br />In some cases, however, parents simply prefer one form over the other and specifically request that spelling.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2026 09:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@diego I&#039;ve always found it so interesting how you (a generalised &quot;you&quot;, I mean) there in Brazil kept the archaic spellings of so many names and surnames (&quot;Manoel&quot; instead of Manuel&quot;, &quot;Souza...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@diego I've always found it so interesting how you (a generalised "you", I mean) there in Brazil kept the archaic spellings of so many names and surnames ("Manoel" instead of Manuel", "Souza" instead of "Sousa", etc.). Over here, the archaic form "Manoel" is no longer in use.</p>
<p>And yes, there's the "chain of namesakes" effect undoubtedly at play too, I was actually going to point that out in my earlier post but forgot (great minds think alike &#x1f609;). Like you said, you could have a son named after his father, who would then give a son of his own the same name, etc. (for instance, there's a branch of my family where <em>four</em> consecutive generations of male ancestors had the exact same full name, their shared given name happened to be Manuel), or something like a grandparent's name being given to several of their grandchildren, or a godparent's name given to several godchildren of theirs, and these younger individuals would then have descendants/godchildren named after *them* in turn, making the name in question more common, like you said.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Oldest Living Men in Portugal (Age 105+)</title>
                        <link>https://globalsupercentenarianforum.com/index.php/community/iberia/oldest-living-men-in-portugal-age-105/paged/2/#post-45902</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2026 01:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@diego I do believe your idea regarding King Manuel I (D. Manuel I) might be more likely (or might have become more likely over time, even the name originally started becoming popular due to...]]></description>
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<p>@diego I do believe your idea regarding King Manuel I (D. Manuel I) might be more likely (or might have become more likely over time, even the name originally started becoming popular due to the biblical name Emmanuel). However, it is worth noting that the given name "Emanuel" also exists in Portugal, though it is *much* rarer than Manuel (incidentally, Emanuel was my maternal grandfather's second given name). One often finds significant regional differences regarding popular Portuguese names in old records and in the modern day, so I do find it unsurprising there is this interesting difference between Brazilian and Portuguese naming customs (even if, as you pointed out, many of the popular male names were/are the same).</p>
<p><span>That is exactly what happens here too; we do have "Emanuel," but "Manoel" and "Manuel" are much more common—perhaps because the contracted form became more popular over time as the Portuguese version of the Latin "Emmanuel."</span><br /><br /><span>Regarding the names that are very common, I also believe there is another explanation: in the past, parents gave their own names to their children. Since these were already common names, at least one child would inherit the same name; consequently, the name was perpetuated through the family line and became increasingly common. If it were a religious family, the likelihood of using common religious names would be even higher.</span><br /><span>But these are just thoughts—nothing certain.</span></p>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2026 00:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@diego I do believe your idea regarding King Manuel I (D. Manuel I) might be more likely (or might have become more likely over time, even the name originally started becoming popular due to...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[@diego I do believe your idea regarding King Manuel I (D. Manuel I) might be more likely (or might have become more likely over time, even the name originally started becoming popular due to the biblical name Emmanuel). However, it is worth noting that the given name "Emanuel" also exists in Portugal, though it is *much* rarer than Manuel (incidentally, Emanuel was my maternal grandfather's second given name). One often finds significant regional differences regarding popular Portuguese names in old records and in the modern day, so I do find it unsurprising there is this interesting difference between Brazilian and Portuguese naming customs (even if, as you pointed out, many of the popular male names were/are the same).]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2026 21:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[João, José, Antonio, Pedro, Francisco, and Joaquim—I believe the explanation is religious; these are important biblical names, and Portugal has a very large Catholic population, just like Br...]]></description>
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<p>@diego I don't actually know the exact reason behind the popularity of the name Manuel, but I can tell you it was (and is) indeed a very popular male name in Portugal for centuries. Around the early 20th century (when the men in this list would have been born), I'd say the six most common names given to Portuguese male infants (which I sometimes call the "six classics") would have been António, Francisco, João, Joaquim, José and Manuel (and those six classics would have been extremely popular for a couple of centuries at least). In fact, looking at the whole list considering this, 12 of these 18 men (i.e. two-thirds of the whole list) have the (first) given names António, João, Joaquim, José or Manuel.</p>
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<p>João, José, Antonio, Pedro, Francisco, and Joaquim—I believe the explanation is religious; these are important biblical names, and Portugal has a very large Catholic population, just like Brazil, where these names are also very common.<br />However, Manuel is not.<br />Although one possible explanation is that the name derives from Emanuel—which *is* biblical.<br />It could also be a tribute to King Manuel I, a very important figure in Portuguese history who funded the 1498 voyages to establish the sea route to India, as well as the expedition that led to the discovery of Brazil.</p>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2026 10:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@diego I don&#039;t actually know the exact reason behind the popularity of the name Manuel, but I can tell you it was (and is) indeed a very popular male name in Portugal for centuries. Around t...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[@diego I don't actually know the exact reason behind the popularity of the name Manuel, but I can tell you it was (and is) indeed a very popular male name in Portugal for centuries. Around the early 20th century (when the men in this list would have been born), I'd say the six most common names given to Portuguese male infants (which I sometimes call the "six classics") would have been António, Francisco, João, Joaquim, José and Manuel (and those six classics would have been extremely popular for a couple of centuries at least). In fact, looking at the whole list considering this, 12 of these 18 men (i.e. two-thirds of the whole list) have the (first) given names António, João, Joaquim, José or Manuel.]]></content:encoded>
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