Posted by: @marco

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I think Annie Adonis (ZAF) was black.

Her parents are listed as “coloured” on their death records (they died during the apartheid so everything was racialized at the time). The term “coloured” isn’t very clear.

@coyote77 Wikipedia says:

"Coloureds (Afrikaans: Kleurlinge) refers to members of multiracial ethnic communities in South Africa who may have ancestry from African, European, and Asian people. The intermixing of different races began in the Cape province of South Africa, with Dutch settlers, African and Malaysian slaves intermixing with the indigenous Khoi tribes of that region. Later various other European nationals also contributed to the growing mixed race people, who would later be officially classified as coloured by the apartheid government in the 1950s.

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The apartheid-era Population Registration Act, 1950 and subsequent amendments, codified the Coloured identity and defined its subgroups, including Cape Coloureds and Malays [...]. As a consequence of Apartheid policies and despite the abolition of the Population Registration Act in 1991, Coloureds are regarded as one of four race groups in South Africa. These groups (blacks, whites, Coloureds and Indians) still tend to have strong racial identities and to classify themselves and others as members of these race groups."

@024tomi Here is a photo of her with her youngest brother (the one sitting) and a portrait of her mother:

Posted by: @marco

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1910-1913

1912:

--> Merle O'Hara was black;

She was actually white. 

1907:

Casilda Benegas de Gallego ----» She wasn't white.

People like Noemí Bisso de Zanetta and Rosa Maria Scapol are definetly white though 

Thanks for the corrections, Coyote!

Posted by: @coyote77

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1907:

 

Casilda Benegas de Gallego ----» She wasn't white.

 

People like Noemí Bisso de Zanetta and Rosa Maria Scapol are definetly white though 

I feel like the lines between White and Hispanic can be blurry sometimes especially if their ancestry is not known. Inah is listed as white, is she of European ancestry then?

@mrcatlord you’re right! In fact, I’m just following the “a la American” sort of classification. When I first arrived in North America, I was confused about this “Hispanic/Latino” label. But tbh, it’s a good idea to have it so we can show some statistical data about, let’s say, the big amount of African-American SCs even though they have a smaller life expectancy than whites. 

But answering your question, in some cases is definitely confusing. But some cases, the classification is evident. For example, Noemi Bisso and Rosa Scarpol were exclusively of recent European ancestry. All their grandparents were born in Europe (like Alida Grubba). Casilda is from Paraguay, a country where the vast majority of people are mestizo and descendant of the mixture of Guarani women and Spanish men. In fact, Casilda’s preferred language was Guarani, and she herself considered herself latina/mestiza. But in some cases, it is unknown…like Inah, for example. Inah does not have any recent European ancestry, as far as I know, but since southern Brazil was almost entirely colonized by Europeans in the 18th century, she may be indeed white. But in general terms, if someone is Latin American, unless he is exclusively descendant of recent European immigration waves (as it happens with some people in Argentina, Uruguay, South Brazil, etc.), hehe chances that they don’t have a significant amount of Native American/black ancestry in their blood is…almost zero. And genetics are complex so people can have a significant amount of native and black ancestry and yet have light hair, light eyes and white skin. 

In some cases, we can go with self-identification as well. Capovilla is listed as white because she self identified at such.