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16/04/2022 9:37 am
This topic gathers all off-topic posts about supercentenarians, moved from other topics.
diego reacted
04/04/2022 4:54 pm
If you want to know the lower bound for the number of supercentenarians, absolutely. However, e.g., the GRG has been 'wrong'* about Juans status until last week. He's unlikely to be the only one. The true number of SCs is almost certainly higher than the number of them that can provide accurate documentation.
But another reason I used it is that I couldn't find a "List of the verified oldest men" on GerontologyWikia. Would you know if it's there? I could only find the https://gerontology.wikia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_living_men .
*[He was the WOLM since Saturnino. They failed to acknowledge this—for good reason. Their metric is "of how many people can we know for certain (or at least with probability 0.many9s ;p) that they are the age they claim?" Clearly, this is the least volatile metric you can think of, and is therefore greatly useful. (And even then, 'certain' claims are still sometimes disputed or even retracted afterwards (Nabi Tajima, Lucy Hannah, to name the most important ones).) But a lower bound is rarely the best estimate of the true value, obviously.. There are just different interesting viewpoints to be gained from different metrics, imo. But don't hesitate convince me otherwise!]
04/04/2022 5:01 pm
Today, he also enters the (by Wikipedian standards) top 25 oldest men by surpassing once-WOM Yasutaro Koide!
@josia9353 For info and statistics about Longevity, it's better to totally forget Wikipedia.
Btw, in another thread, someone assured us that Fauja Singh's claim of 111 was "confirmed on Facebook", and no one objected. No one even commented on that. So if that's the bar... Protesting against the disinformation on Wikipedia, well... You can see why I find that hard to take seriously.. :p
16/04/2022 11:45 am
Using the word "wrong" implies that you do not know the facts about what age validation means.
For over 20 years, the GRG has long said in media reports and on the GRG website that "validated case data" by definition is a SUBSET of the total case data. The goal of age validation is to produce scientifically valid samples, not conduct a world supercentenarian population census. And I think it was alear to most that Juan Vicente Mora Perez was likely a true case as far back as 2019. But that doesn't make the case "validated". until it is. So let's stop trying to pretend validated case data is a census count...it isn't, and it was never intended to be.
16/04/2022 1:33 pm
@josia9353 Let's not use the word 'failed' when people are doing what they are supposed to be doing.
16/04/2022 1:34 pm
@josia9353 In that case, Facebook was being used to confirm someone is alive, not that they are the age claimed.
19/07/2024 8:51 am
Joao's full name is already available:
https://gerontology.fandom.com/wiki/Joao_da_Missanga
And interesting that Brazilian men have an 80% annual mortality rate at age 110 so far. This could be reduced to 75% if Primo Olivieri will reach his 110th birthday in March of next year.
19/07/2024 8:52 am
111th.......
And interesting that Brazilian men have an 80% annual mortality rate at age 110 so far. This could be reduced to 75% if Primo Olivieri will reach his 110th birthday in March of next year.
http://www.supercentenariditalia.it/persone-viventi-piu-longeve-in-italia.
Persone viventi più longeve in Italia – Supercentenari d'Italia (supercentenariditalia.it)
19/07/2024 8:58 am
111th.......
And interesting that Brazilian men have an 80% annual mortality rate at age 110 so far. This could be reduced to 75% if Primo Olivieri will reach his 110th birthday in March of next year.
Yes; thank you! Typo on my own part!
(I'd fix it, but I'm not allowed to edit my own posts after they are made, unfortunately.)
19/07/2024 11:45 am
Joao's full name is already available:
Except, that's not his name. GW is mostly a mess, one should avoid referencing it.
ESO Correspondent for Hungary (since 2020)
GRG Correspondent for Hungary (2020-2023)
Tracker and researcher of Hungarian and other Central European (super)centenarians (since 2016)
Enthusiast of extreme longevity (since childhood)
19/07/2024 7:03 pm
Joao's full name is already available:
Except, that's not his name. GW is mostly a mess, one should avoid referencing it.
And it's absurd as to how this mistake even occurred. Someone on the 110 Club or Gerontology Wiki saw a post on Facebook where a person referenced his first name and his job as a bead (missanga) salesman, and somehow came to the conclusion that this was his actual legal name. If you look up "da Missanga" on Google, you'll find that nobody actually has this surname.
Profile picture: Marita Camacho Quirós (1911-Present)
19/07/2024 9:23 pm
Joao's full name is already available:
Except, that's not his name. GW is mostly a mess, one should avoid referencing it.
And it's absurd as to how this mistake even occurred. Someone on the 110 Club or Gerontology Wiki saw a post on Facebook where a person referenced his first name and his job as a bead (missanga) salesman, and somehow came to the conclusion that this was his actual legal name. If you look up "da Missanga" on Google, you'll find that nobody actually has this surname.
@AQ Since you disliked this post, can you please explain what about my comment is incorrect? I've only ever seen one person outside of the SC fan community call him "João da Missanga", and they weren't suggesting this to be his full name.
Profile picture: Marita Camacho Quirós (1911-Present)
024Tomi reacted
20/07/2024 1:45 am
@mendocino I have asked you multiple times to not talk to me, and I will ask you one final time before I contact the admins. Do not message or reference my username. And the part about your post that was incorrect was the origin of his name "Da Missanga". I know it, and you know it that this is not his real surname. It has been talked about here and the110club, that this surname was made up to protect his privacy. Another user even said that to be extra careful, they weren't going to mention his name at all. I don't even know if we're allowed to mention his full name, so let's keep it the way it is.
|Male| 🎮Gamer🎮 > 👕Fashion Lover👕 > 🕶Chore Motivator🕶
Favorite Male SC: Juan Vicente Pérez Mora
Favorite Female SCs: Lucile Randon & Kane Tanaka
😁And the kind of guy that's always down to chat😁
MrCatlord reacted
20/07/2024 2:32 am
@mendocino you are trying to start drama with me, and I do not wish to get involved!!! I have said it multiple times on this forum for you and a few others to NOT speak to me. My goal here is to get across that the drama is best "left in the dark". I do NOT want to argue with you. I simply want to be left alone. I don't think that my request is too tough for you to follow. It is very easy, I am simply asking you to leave me alone. You can even pretend that I don't exist, just leave me alone and QUIT referencing my username. I am not telling you to go out of your way to be extra nice or give me a ton of praise. All I'm asking is that you do not engage in conversation with me. It's that simple.
|Male| 🎮Gamer🎮 > 👕Fashion Lover👕 > 🕶Chore Motivator🕶
Favorite Male SC: Juan Vicente Pérez Mora
Favorite Female SCs: Lucile Randon & Kane Tanaka
😁And the kind of guy that's always down to chat😁
MrCatlord reacted
20/07/2024 6:44 am
Joao's full name is already available:
Except, that's not his name. GW is mostly a mess, one should avoid referencing it.
Thanks. You learn something new every day.
