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024Tomi
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@dejan Since August 2020, actually.

There might not be a report ever again. The National Pension Insurance administration has stopped responding to my letters.

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Dejan
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@024tomi If they don't want to answer your emails, it wouldn't hurt to contact them by phone in early 2023. I contacted the Central Registry Office in my country and was told that they do not have reliable data, because in their lists there are still people who died more than 30 years ago, but no one has reported his death and they are still listed as living persons, and actually they died 30-40 years ago.

Data from the pension insurance fund is probably somewhat more reliable than the central register of citizens, for example in the central register of citizens of Slovenia, the oldest living person is a man, born in January 1911, while Julijana Zskrajšek is currently the SEVENTH oldest living person in Slovenia, just behind five women born from January 1911 to October 1912 and one man born in January 1911 who is listed as the oldest living person in Slovenia as of 2019. Milena Vintar, one of Juliana Zskrajšek's great-nieces, checked out of personal interest, who claims that Juliana Zskrajšek is still not the oldest living person in Slovenia, because it is a man born in January 1911 and five women born before 30 October 1912 according to these according to the data, there are currently a total of 7 people born before 30 October 1912 in Slovenia, of which a man was born in January 1912. 1911 is the oldest living person. (7 people over 110 years, personally, I don't believe that is possible for Slovenia). I have saved copies of her response in a screenshot where she claims that Julijana Zskrajsek is NOT currently the oldest living person in Slovenia...

She stated that her great-aunt Julijana Zskrajsek feels humiliated when someone tells her that she is the oldest Slovenian woman, that is exactly why she checked whether she is really officially the oldest living person in Slovenia, but the answer was, currently the SEVENTH oldest living person person in Slovenia. She also said that she does not want to submit the documentation until the central register of citizens informs her that Juliana has become the oldest living person in Slovenia, for now it is still not according to the data from the central register of citizens which are not reliable for me and I think it is almost impossible in Slovenia lives man born in January 1911...


   
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024Tomi
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Gallery of 25 oldest known person ever to live in present-day Hungary

https://i.imgur.com/qSloyKK.png

Photos are always from the highest ages with public photos. Compare with the list starting from top left, going right and then to the next row.

Legend:
Names: given name + husband's given name with the suffix "-né" + husband's surname + maiden surname in parentheses. Unmarried (Veronika Zsilisznki, Margit Ambrus) and divorced (Mária Höffner) women appear with their maiden name.
Blue name: male
*: living, age is as of 14 December 2022
fl.: last known date confirmed alive
obp.: obituary published on the date (no known exact date of death, but usually at most a week before the obituary was published. Calculated ages ("c.") are therefore a few days higher then in reality.)

  1. 113 years, 75 days Veronika Zsilinszki (4 February 1908 – 20 April 2021) photo at 111
  2. 111 years, 302 days* Erzsébet Istvánné Fejes (née Soltész) (15 February 1911 – living) photo at 109
  3. 111 years, 47 days Katalin Jánosné Bélik (née Piláth) (17 September 1907 – 3 November 2018) photo at 111
  4. 110 years, 364 days Mária Jánosné Kerner (née Szondi) (23 December 1909 – 21 December 2020) photo at 110
  5. 110 years, 326 days Ilona Jánosné Kudász (née Ray) (27 April 1902 – 19 March 2013) photo at 110
  6. 110 years, 239 days Rezső Gallai (né Galajda) (29 January 1904 – 25 September 2014) photo at 110
  7. 110 years, 230 days Margit Dezsőné Kovács (née Balogh) (25 September 1906 – 13 May 2017) photo at 110
  8. 110 years, 184 days Rozália Sándorné Csíki (née Földes) (18 January 1894 – 20 July 2004) photo at 110
  9. 110 years, 154 days Mária Eugénia Jánosné Varga (née Füller) (10 March 1895 – 11 August 2005) photo at 109
  10. 110 years, 110 days Erzsébet "Elza" Brandeisz (18 September 1907 – 6 January 2018) photo at 108
  11. 110 years, 50 days Erzsébet Józsefné Szűcs (née Slatka) (28 October 1890 – 17 December 2000) photo at 110
  12. 110 years, 19 days+ Mária Höffner (20 June 1905 – fl. 9 July 2015) photo at 109
  13. 109 years, c. 366 days Anna Istvánné Vincze (née Vizy) (20 June 1908 – obp. 21 June 2018) photo at 100?
  14. 109 years, 270 days Margit Ferencné Bernáth (née Batki) (16 July 1908 – 12 April 2018) photo at 108
  15. 109 years, c. 247 days Józsa Józsefné Nagy (née Gieger) (3 March 1906 – obp. 5 November 2015) photo at 109
  16. 109 years, 184 days Mária Ferencné Kustos (née Farkas) (24 November 1899 – 26 May 2009) photo at 109
  17. 109 years, 170 days Anna Rudolfné Ocskai (née Mucha) (13 August 1911 – 30 January 2021) photo at 109
  18. 109 years, 155-231 days Márta Jánosné Nyakas (née ?) (24 April 1907 – 26 Sept/11 Dec 2016) photo at 108
  19. 109 years, c. 136 days Margit Lajosné Buzáki (née Harangi) (2 May 1898 – obp. 15 September 2007) photo at 108
  20. 109 years, c. 94 days Terézia Jánosné Szentirmay (née Kránixfeld) (4 November 1899 – obp. 6 February 2009) photo at 109
  21. 109 years, c. 71 days Jolán Istvánné Nagy (née Marton) (11 September 1891 – obp. 21 November 2000) photo at 109
  22. 109 years, c. 62 days Julianna Lászlóné Fodor (née Babik) (16 June 1891 – obp. 17 August 2000) photo at 107
  23. 109 years, 17 days Viktória Sándorné Csorba (née Farkas) (18 December 1890 – 4 January 2000) photo at 109
  24. 108 years, 330 days Margit Ambrus (14 December 1900 – 9 November 2009) photo at 107
  25. 108 years, 321 days Zsuzsanna Istvánné Ládi (née Madaras) (21 March 1884 – 5 February 1993) photo at 108

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024Tomi
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Gallery of the 10 oldest known men ever to live in present-day Hungary

Photos are always from the highest ages with public photos. Compare with the list starting from top left, going right and then to the next row.

Legend:
fl.: last known date confirmed alive
obp.: obituary published on the date (no known exact date of death, but usually at most a week before the obituary was published. Calculated ages ("c.") are therefore a few days higher then in reality.)

  1. 110 years, 239 days Rezső Gallai (né Galajda) (29 January 1904 – 25 September 2014) photo at 110
  2. 108 years, 126 days Gergely András Molnár (16 November 1897 – 22 March 2006) photo at 108
  3. 108 years, 58 days Antal Ribnikár (25 January 1910 – 24 March 2018) photo at 107
  4. 108 years, 52 days Henrik Havasi (né Hirsch) (17 September 1882 – 7 November 1990) photo at 108
  5. 107 years, c. 288 days Pál Tibor Kósa (né Kohn) (12 June 1908 – obp. 26 March 2016) photo at 107
  6. 107 years, 228 days György László (21 August 1896 – 5 April 2004) photo at 107
  7. 107 years, 217 days József Pethő (13 March 1895 – 16 October 2002) photo at 107
  8. 107 years, 179 days Márton Rung (25 June 1910 – 21 December 2017) photo at 106
  9. 107 years, 123 days+ József Pajor (3 June 1905 – fl. 3 October 2012) photo at 107
  10. 107 years, 119 days Mihály Bula (30 November 1905 – 29 March 2013) photo at 106

 

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FinbarrC
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Great work Tomi 👍 

https://finbarrconnolly.com/chronicle/


   
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heatwave116
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Elizabeth "Betty" Lightfoot (née Vesprame) was born in Hungary on 22 February 1915 and moved to the US in 1921. She died on 19 December 2022 in Fort Thomas, Kentucky aged 107 years, 300 days.

https://www.dmefuneral.com/obituaries/Elizabeth-Betty-Lightfoot?obId=26713422

Is it possible to find out if she was born in present-day Hungary, or another part of the Austro-Hungarian empire?


   
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024Tomi
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@heatwave116 @930310 I was able to find out (using his death record mentioning his parents' names) that her father, originally called Ferenc Veszprémi, was born in Felpéc, Győr-Moson-Sopron County in 1872. However, I couldn't find a birth record for Betty (Erzsébet Veszéprémi) or her mother (Mária Markus, born in 1885). I'm not 100% sure Betty was born in Budapest, it might have been a "filler", having not known the name of the exact village.

It would be great to find more 107+ years old people born in present-day Hungary who died in the US. Besides Elizabeth Lightfoot, I can only think of Helen Obermayer (1879-1991), Julia Ribar (1888-1995), Elizabeth Stefan (1895-2008), Joe Madar (1905-2013) and Mary Ann Natly (1907-2014) off the top of my head. I reckon there have been 10-20 more in reality. I wonder what would be the easiest way to discover them.

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With the death of Istvánné Fejes the oldest person in Hungary becomes Arpadne Juhasz on 5/14/1914 in Gyor-Moson-Sopron ?

   
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024Tomi
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Posted by: @024tomi

[...]

However, the following is a pleasant surpise, as her last online mention was from her 100th birthday: Árpádné Juhász (née Terézia, surname not yet known to me) turned 108 back in May. She was born on 14 May 1914 in Győr, and currently lives in a care home in Győrújbarát.

108th birthday notice
100th birthday report

Árpádné Juhász confirmed alive as of today.

 

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