He claimed age 115 and his 1900 and I think 1910 US Census entry support a final age of 113. But this assumes that Davis Butler == Donald Butler.

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@musicotic Do you think that LQ can validate Charles Edward Graves in the future based on his 1896 Mississippi school census entry? Regretfully, he does not have either a 1900 or a 1910 US Census entry, though his documentation starting from his 1908 marriage record and extending to his WWI draft card and 1920 US Census entry and beyond is all very strong.

From what I remember of the case, the school census records are quite messy. But the fact that the remainder of the records are consistent is a plus. 

Yeah, his records from 1917 onward are quite consistent, and he also has a marriage record from 1908, as well as I think an intention to marry document from 1908 as well. If I recall correctly, either the marriage record itself or the intention to marry document specifically confirms that he was 18+ years old during this time, which means that he could not have been much younger. And of course his younger brother Warren consistently claimed a birth in late 1890 ever since at least the 1910s. (Warren doesn't have a 1900 US Census entry either, along with the rest of the Graves family, unfortunately.)

Someone sent me a PM a day or two or three ago. I can't see the PM (or any PMs, for that matter), so whatever it was, I give you permission to post it here, if it's OK with you.

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@musicotic Do you think that LQ can validate Charles Edward Graves in the future based on his 1896 Mississippi school census entry? Regretfully, he does not have either a 1900 or a 1910 US Census entry, though his documentation starting from his 1908 marriage record and extending to his WWI draft card and 1920 US Census entry and beyond is all very strong.

From what I remember of the case, the school census records are quite messy. But the fact that the remainder of the records are consistent is a plus. 

Yeah, his records from 1917 onward are quite consent, and he also has a marriage record from 1908, as well as I think an intention to marry document from 1908 as well. If I recall correctly, either the marriage record itself or the intention to marry document specifically confirms that he was 18+ years old during this time, which means that he could not have been much younger. And of course his younger brother Warren consistently claimed a birth in late 1890 ever since at least the 1910s. (Warren doesn't have a 1900 US Census entry either, along with the rest of the Graves family, unfortunately.)

And of course the elder siblings' 1892 school census entry confirms that the 17 for Charles Edward Graves's age in 1896 was a typo and is meant to say 7 instead. Charles Edward Graves isn't listed together with his siblings in 1892, which must mean that he was younger than five years old back then.

I think that Ethel Caterham will reach age 116 and possibly age 117+ as well. She still seems in very good shape for her age. Age 118 is possible but unlikely because at her age things can go downhill very quickly--just look at Inah Canbarro Lucas!

@musicotic What name was Park Fountain Heard listed as on the 1892 school census? And to clarify, in 1894, he was listed as Herd Heard, correct?

And do the siblings' and father's names at least match?

Other than Marita Camacho Quiros and this woman, are there any other former first spouses who reached age 104+?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franca_Pilla

@ChrisR You know, I wonder if, at some future point in time, the oldest validated person ever from Latin America will be a male. After all, if Anisio will become validated, then Latin America will have validated 116-year-olds of both sexes, and ditto for validated 115-year-olds, validated 114-year-olds, validated 113-year-olds, et cetera, as well as no validated 117+ year-olds of either sex--yet. Could Latin America see a validated 117+ year-old man in the future before it will see any such women?

Look at Scandinavia, where Christian Mortensen (by his birthplace) is the only person there to live past his 113th birthday, indeed for over 2.5 years beyond, in spite of him being male.

If Anisio will get validated in the future, then--if it wasn't for Maria Capovilla--then Anisio would have been the oldest validated Latin American person ever. In fact, it's possible that so would E.M. del Toro without Maria Capovilla.

Random question, but who was the oldest person ever in an interracial marriage? Victor Wellington Peters (1902-2012) was white and had a Korean wife and died 1.5 months short of his 110th birthday, IIRC. But was there anyone older? I suspect that there probably was, especially in Latin America. But possibly not only in Latin America. For instance, I strongly suspect that Shizuka Lagrange (nee Taniguchi; 1902-2013) was in an interracial marriage due to her married last name.