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30/08/2023 2:35 am
Here's a list that I put together:
1907:
- Justina S. Xavier da Silva, F, (Brazil)
Born: 10 January, aged 116
- Maria Rita Pereira, F, (Brazil)
Born: 15 January, aged 116
- Wang Zhanwen, F, (China)
Born: 15 April, aged 116
- Francisca J. de Conceicao, F, (Brazil)
Born: 04 July, aged 116
(I find it unusual and a little skeptical that she could still walk 2 months before her 116th birthday. Unusual but not impossible, still I'm skeptical though)
1908:
- Maria Raimunda de Sousa, F, (Brazil)
Born: 25 January, aged 115
- Maria Blanco, F, (Brazil)
Born: 19 February, aged 115
- Joรฃo Da Missanga, M, (Brazil)
Born: 13 March, aged 115
- Elias Chavez Alvarez, M, (Mexico)
Born: 08 November, aged 114
- Anonymous, F, (Puerto Rico)
Born: After 10 June, aged 114
(This anonymous woman from Puerto Rico was first reported to be 114 on 31 December 2022, and most recently reported to still be 114 on 10 June, 2023. No 115th birthday confirmation, so she may have been born in late 1908)
1909:
- Juan Jose Vera Villalva, M, (Ecuador)
Born: 20 January, aged 114
- Elpidia Alvarez de Saรฉz, F, (Venezuela)
Born: 03 March, aged 114
- Alexandra Dolghier, F, (Moldova)
Born: 14 March, aged 114
(Very Doubtful)
- Santos Cruz Flores, M, (Mexico)
Born: 01 November, aged 113
- Albertina A. de Albuquerque, F, (Brazil)
Born: 09 November, aged 113
(I find it strange that her 3 children were born to her when she was 44, 48, and 50. Possible, but I'm skeptical of her case)
- Narcisa Cardona Martinez, F, (Mexico)
Born: 11 November, aged 113
- Eugenio Zanotty, M, (Venezuela)
Born: 23 December, aged 113
(Documents and records support a birthyear of 1919, making Mr. Zanotty only 103, and not 113. Although his case is not fully debunked)
- Wang Sunshi, F, (China)
Born: ?, aged 113/114
(Her grandchildren chose October 6th as a placeholder birthday for her, but she admits she does not know the actual day. Her case has tons of red flags)
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30/08/2023 5:12 am
How plausible is the case of Justina Xavier Da Silva and other unvalidated supercentenarians?
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The age at which Albertina Albuquerque became a mother seems suspicious to me.
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Although Emma Morano was a mother at 38 and Besse Cooper at 41.
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What do you think of Concepciรณn Alarcรณn Vega? (December 8, 1909)
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30/08/2023 7:05 am
The other interesting thing about the age of a mother at childbirth is that the chances of an existing mother accidentally conceiving at more advanced ages is much higher than for a first time mother.
Here in Australia they have advised of quite a surge in 48-50 year old women becoming pregnant. The verdict is that healthier diets, lifestyles and exercise regimes have notably increased the chances of conceiving naturally at this age.
But natural first time conception at this age has barely changed:
This isnโt going to affect current female supercentenarian candidates who would mainly have had children in the 1930s and 40s: but in future decades ย it may of less assistance to researchers.
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30/08/2023 9:14 pm
How plausible is the case of Justina Xavier Da Silva and other unvalidated supercentenarians?
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The age at which Albertina Albuquerque became a mother seems suspicious to me.
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Although Emma Morano was a mother at 38 and Besse Cooper at 41.
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What do you think of Concepciรณn Alarcรณn Vega? (December 8, 1909)
Oddly Concepcion Alarcon Vega is still listed on the official wiki list. I donโt think sheโs had alive confirmation in over a year. Maybe Aquanaut_Chalk should add โlast alive confirmationโ dates to the list
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30/08/2023 9:16 pm
Also Kame Uema was omitted from the list but her case is almost definitely true, itโs just that the Japanese are very private and she was overshadowed by Matsu Gaja and Ushi Makishi. But we also arenโt sure sheโs still alive
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