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@ale76 Rudy Thompson died earlier this month


   
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Top 10 Oldest Living Men in the USA (as of 19th June 2023)
Today's update (RIP Mr. Thompson) 

1. Herbert Wolding (Portage, Columbia C., Wisconsin) (b. 15 October 1912), 110 y.o. 
2. Otis Randle (California) (b. 28 June 1913?), 109? y.o.
3. Johnnie Collier (Tunica, Mississippi) (b. 2 September 1913?), 110? y.o.
4. Alfredo Fregosi (California) (b. 11 September 1913), 109 y.o.
5. Horace Baumer (Pennsylvania) (b. 17 December 1913), 109 y.o.
6. Morrie Markoff (Los Angeles, California) (b. 11 January 1914), 109 y.o.
7. Vincent Dransfield (Little Falls,New Jersey) (b. 28 March 1914), 109 y.o.
8. Fortino Rocha (Texas) (b. 13 August 1914 in Mexico), 109 y.o.
9. Eugene Baltes (River Forest, Illinois) (b. 29 October 1914), 108 y.o.
10. D. Boyd Shank (South Dakota) (b. 5 November 1914), 108 y.o.

[Francis Zouein (California) (b. 1 January 1911? in Lebanon), 112? y.o. (unverified)]
[Joe Baker (Compton, Los Angeles C., California) (b. 29 January 1912/1919?), 111/104? y.o. (unverified)]
[Limbo: Alphonso Wilkerson (California) (b. 2 April 1913), 110? y.o.]

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There are no doubts about Joe Baker's age, right?

 


   
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@futurist not that I've ever heard of or seen on this forum, but he's unvalidated. Don't know if he has any early life documentation.

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@futurist not that I've ever heard of or seen on this forum, but he's unvalidated. Don't know if he has any early life documentation.

He should have some due to US Censuses being conducted every ten years.

 


   
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@futurist not that I've ever heard of or seen on this forum, but he's unvalidated. Don't know if he has any early life documentation.

He should have some due to US Censuses being conducted every ten years. 

It's just a matter of finding it.

 


   
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@futurist The thing is that he's about seven years younger. (This is his 1950 US census entry, 1930 US Census entry and 1920 US Census entry all supporting 1918/1919). Don't go off-topic, Mr. Baker can be discussed elsewhere.


   
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Francis Zouein confirmed alive on 5 August:


   
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Johnnie Collier of Tunica, Mississippi turned 110 on 2 September 2023.

Screenshot of a news report from last year (I can't find the actual report online)

 

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Nice to see another supercentenarian man in the US


   
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Top 10 Oldest Living Men in the USA (as of 4th September 2023)
Today's update (Mr. Randle turned 110; Mr. Rocha turned 109; RIP Mr. Eaglin) 

1. Herbert Wolding (Portage, Columbia C., Wisconsin) (b. 15 October 1912), 110 y.o. 
2. Otis Randle (California) (b. 28 June 1913?), 110? y.o.
3. Johnnie Collier (Tunica, Mississippi) (b. 2 September 1913?), 110? y.o.
4. Alfredo Fregosi (California) (b. 11 September 1913), 109 y.o.
5. Horace Baumer (Pennsylvania) (b. 17 December 1913), 109 y.o.
6. Morrie Markoff (Los Angeles, California) (b. 11 January 1914), 109 y.o.
7. Vincent Dransfield (Little Falls,New Jersey) (b. 28 March 1914), 109 y.o.
8. Fortino Rocha (Texas) (b. 13 August 1914 in Mexico), 109 y.o.
9. Eugene Baltes (River Forest, Illinois) (b. 29 October 1914), 108 y.o.
10. D. Boyd Shank (South Dakota) (b. 5 November 1914), 108 y.o.

[Francis Zouein (California) (b. 1 January 1911? in Lebanon), 112? y.o. (unverified)]
[Joe Baker (Compton, Los Angeles C., California) (b. 29 January 1912/1919?), 111/104? y.o. (unverified)]
[Limbo: Alphonso Wilkerson (California) (b. 2 April 1913), 110? y.o.]

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Mr. Fregosi already turned 110 by now, right?

Also, Vincent Dransfield has a lot of potential, I suspect. It's still extremely early, but I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility of him becoming the next Walter Breuning.

 


   
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Mr. Fregosi already turned 110 by now, right?

Also, Vincent Dransfield has a lot of potential, I suspect. It's still extremely early, but I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility of him becoming the next Walter Breuning.

 

I tried contacting some people, but I still don't have confirmation of Alfred Fregosi's 110th birthday. The most recent confirmation I could find for him was from June 2023.

Considering that Walter Breuning used a walker at 109 and had long since given up driving, Vincent Dransfield is definitely quite a bit stronger at the same age, seeing that he apparently even goes shopping without using a cane. Aside from the obvious ones like Emma Morano and Jeanne Calment, I can't think of too many other people who were in comparable shape to him at 109. I know that walking ability isn't the only predictor of health, but it's always interesting when a near-SC is able to walk long distances so effortlessly. 

 

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Mr. Fregosi already turned 110 by now, right?

Also, Vincent Dransfield has a lot of potential, I suspect. It's still extremely early, but I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility of him becoming the next Walter Breuning.

 

I tried contacting some people, but I still don't have confirmation of Alfred Fregosi's 110th birthday. The most recent confirmation I could find for him was from June 2023.

Considering that Walter Breuning used a walker at 109 and had long since given up driving, Vincent Dransfield is definitely quite a bit stronger at the same age, seeing that he apparently even goes shopping without using a cane. Aside from the obvious ones like Emma Morano and Jeanne Calment, I can't think of too many other people who were in comparable shape to him at 109. I know that walking ability isn't the only predictor of health, but it's always interesting when a near-SC is able to walk long distances so effortlessly. 

 

Bob Weighton did his own shopping too I believe. Catherina van der Linden works out at the gym still, so did Henry Tseng, Riudavets rode a bike, Tanabe went for walks, Talley went fishing

I’m sure there’s a lot of other people who were in similar shape but died at 109 or 110 so aren’t well-known here 

 

 


   
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Mr. Fregosi already turned 110 by now, right?

Also, Vincent Dransfield has a lot of potential, I suspect. It's still extremely early, but I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility of him becoming the next Walter Breuning.

 

I tried contacting some people, but I still don't have confirmation of Alfred Fregosi's 110th birthday. The most recent confirmation I could find for him was from June 2023.

Considering that Walter Breuning used a walker at 109 and had long since given up driving, Vincent Dransfield is definitely quite a bit stronger at the same age, seeing that he apparently even goes shopping without using a cane. Aside from the obvious ones like Emma Morano and Jeanne Calment, I can't think of too many other people who were in comparable shape to him at 109. I know that walking ability isn't the only predictor of health, but it's always interesting when a near-SC is able to walk long distances so effortlessly. 

 

Bob Weighton did his own shopping too I believe. Catherina van der Linden works out at the gym still, so did Henry Tseng, Riudavets rode a bike, Tanabe went for walks, Talley went fishing

I’m sure there’s a lot of other people who were in similar shape but died at 109 or 110 so aren’t well-known here 

 

The only difference is that these people required assistance to walk, such as a cane or a walker.

I haven't seen any photos of her at 109, but Jeralean Talley would definitely be a strong candidate. Here's a photo of her fishing at 112:

 

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Talley could still walk at 116 too which is very impressive

Her 116th birthday article did however say that she planned on going fishing that summer. Unfortunately she did not make it. I probably would have thought she’d outlive Jones and maybe Morano if I had been following SCs back then 

Anyways I think this is getting a bit off topic from oldest men in the USA. Would it be within the forum rules to make a “SCs that are in best shape” kind of thread?


   
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Studies show that physical strength and ability yo perform ADL is associated with better survival in centenarians, but it's not that much higher. 


   
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Some interesting perceptions above Mr Catlord in respect of Jeralean Talley and Susannah Jones, in particular.

As someone who was following supercentenarians at that time, the two did tend to be compared a bit given they were both African Americans, from 1899.

JT was seen as naturally much fitter and stronger and one who could potentially have gone on for a long time: and of course she was the older of the two, and became the WOP.

By comparison SJ was seen as more frail and unlikely to out perform JT in terms of age. Ultimately SJ lived almost 300 days longer than JT and of course also became the WOP.

Personally the 116+ death that has surprised me the most since following supercentenarians was JT. Of course we should never make assumptions at these sort of ages, but she appeared very strong at 116.


   
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Some interesting perceptions above Mr Catlord in respect of Jeralean Talley and Susannah Jones, in particular.

As someone who was following supercentenarians at that time, the two did tend to be compared a bit given they were both African Americans, from 1899.

JT was seen as naturally much fitter and stronger and one who could potentially have gone on for a long time: and of course she was the older of the two, and became the WOP.

By comparison SJ was seen as more frail and unlikely to out perform JT in terms of age. Ultimately SJ lived almost 300 days longer than JT and of course also became the WOP.

Personally the 116+ death that has surprised me the most since following supercentenarians was JT. Of course we should never make assumptions at these sort of ages, but she appeared very strong at 116.

I first developed an interest in supercentenarians a few months after her death, in the weeks between Dominga Velasco's death and that of Emma Otis, so I didn't experience that firsthand. I imagine that the shock was comparable to that of when Violet Brown passed, minus the anger sparked by the fact that petty family squabbling had weakened the health of the world's oldest person.

 


   
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I agree Sailor Haumea.

Violet was probably the saddest 116+ death because, as you say, it appeared to be a direct reflection of the behaviour of others.


   
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I agree Sailor Haumea.

Violet was probably the saddest 116+ death because, as you say, it appeared to be a direct reflection of the behaviour of others.

Agreed. IMHO, her family members in Britain should not have gotten involved at all in her life since they simply made things much worse for her.

 


   
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Talley could still walk at 116 too which is very impressive

Her 116th birthday article did however say that she planned on going fishing that summer. Unfortunately she did not make it. I probably would have thought she’d outlive Jones and maybe Morano if I had been following SCs back then 

Anyways I think this is getting a bit off topic from oldest men in the USA. Would it be within the forum rules to make a “SCs that are in best shape” kind of thread?

I think that Jeralean's death might have been accelerated by her celebrating three consecutive birthday parties when she turned 116, but that's just a hypothesis on my own part. I believe that Robert Young has previously suggested something similar, though.

 


   
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Studies show that physical strength and ability yo perform ADL is associated with better survival in centenarians, but it's not that much higher. 

What is ADL?

 


   
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Mr. Fregosi already turned 110 by now, right?

Also, Vincent Dransfield has a lot of potential, I suspect. It's still extremely early, but I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility of him becoming the next Walter Breuning.

 

I tried contacting some people, but I still don't have confirmation of Alfred Fregosi's 110th birthday. The most recent confirmation I could find for him was from June 2023.

Considering that Walter Breuning used a walker at 109 and had long since given up driving, Vincent Dransfield is definitely quite a bit stronger at the same age, seeing that he apparently even goes shopping without using a cane. Aside from the obvious ones like Emma Morano and Jeanne Calment, I can't think of too many other people who were in comparable shape to him at 109. I know that walking ability isn't the only predictor of health, but it's always interesting when a near-SC is able to walk long distances so effortlessly. 

 

Walter's body did do something extraordinary at age 108, though. When Walter fell and broke his hip, he fully recovered in 21 days and was even able to walk again, albeit I think now with a walker. Not many 108-year-olds, let alone male ones, can survive breaking a hip at age 108, I would suspect!

 


   
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@futurist another example is Louise Signore who broke her hip at 110 this spring and can still walk (as of her birthday in July)


   
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@futurist another example is Louise Signore who broke her hip at 110 this spring and can still walk (as of her birthday in July)

Interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if she'll go very far as well.

I think that surviving COVID-19 at an extremely high age also indicates strength, especially if this doesn't permanently ruin one's health. Lucile Randon survived COVID-19 shortly before her 117th birthday and was subsequently able to reach almost age 119, after all. Phil Corio survived COVID-19 at age 108 and was able to reach age 110.

 


   
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Mr. Fregosi already turned 110 by now, right?

Also, Vincent Dransfield has a lot of potential, I suspect. It's still extremely early, but I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility of him becoming the next Walter Breuning.

 

I tried contacting some people, but I still don't have confirmation of Alfred Fregosi's 110th birthday. The most recent confirmation I could find for him was from June 2023.

Considering that Walter Breuning used a walker at 109 and had long since given up driving, Vincent Dransfield is definitely quite a bit stronger at the same age, seeing that he apparently even goes shopping without using a cane. Aside from the obvious ones like Emma Morano and Jeanne Calment, I can't think of too many other people who were in comparable shape to him at 109. I know that walking ability isn't the only predictor of health, but it's always interesting when a near-SC is able to walk long distances so effortlessly. 

 

Walter's body did do something extraordinary at age 108, though. When Walter fell and broke his hip, he fully recovered in 21 days and was even able to walk again, albeit I think now with a walker. Not many 108-year-olds, let alone male ones, can survive breaking a hip at age 108, I would suspect!

He still needed a cane to walk before breaking his hip, though, so I would say that Vincent Dransfield was more mobile at the same age.

Another factor that I haven't seen people mention before with regard to (super)centenarians and their mobility is height, with shorter centenarians having an advantage due to generally weighing less and having a lower center of gravity. I imagine part of the reason why Ken Weeks is still able to walk completely unaided at the age of 110 is because he's so short (only around 4'11), in addition to good genes and a lifelong preference for walking keeping his bones and muscles strong. Walter Breuning, on the other hand, was 5'8, which probably made it more difficult for him to keep his balance as he got older.

I don't know how tall Dransfield is, since it doesn't seem like he signed up for the WW2 draft in 1940 (maybe because he was already serving as a firefighter?) but you can extrapolate his height by comparing him with others, like in this 1957 photo where he's standing alongside some other men who have their heights listed in their WW2 draft cards:

This obviously isn't scientific, but I'd guess he's probably around Walter Breuning's height, if not slightly taller, so that makes his ability to walk unaided even more impressive. 

 

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@futurist another example is Louise Signore who broke her hip at 110 this spring and can still walk (as of her birthday in July)

Interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if she'll go very far as well.

I think that surviving COVID-19 at an extremely high age also indicates strength, especially if this doesn't permanently ruin one's health. Lucile Randon survived COVID-19 shortly before her 117th birthday and was subsequently able to reach almost age 119, after all. Phil Corio survived COVID-19 at age 108 and was able to reach age 110.

 

Maria Branyas Morera, Inah Canabarro Lucas, and Ethel Caterham are all Covid survivors, that's three of the top ten 

Both of the two OLPs since Tanaka survived covid and held the "oldest covid survivor ever" title at some point. Interesting how Maria set the record at very start of the pandemic, then got surpassed by Randon, and ended up succeeding Randon as OLP anyways

I hope Louise can go far too, she is probably my favorite American SC from 1912, note that her first and middle names "Louise Jean" are basically "Jeanne Louise (Calment)" backwards. And she is also the child of Italian immigrants like Ceccarelli

 


   
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Top 10 Oldest Living Men in the USA (as of 20th October 2023)
Today's update (Mr. Wolding turned 111; Mr. Collier and Mr. Fregosi turned 110) 

1. Herbert Wolding (Portage, Columbia C., Wisconsin) (b. 15 October 1912), 111 y.o. 
2. Otis Randle (California) (b. 28 June 1913?), 110? y.o.
3. Johnnie Collier (Tunica, Mississippi) (b. 2 September 1913?), 110 y.o.
4. Alfredo Fregosi (California) (b. 11 September 1913), 110 y.o.
5. Horace Baumer (Pennsylvania) (b. 17 December 1913), 109 y.o.
6. Morrie Markoff (Los Angeles, California) (b. 11 January 1914), 109 y.o.
7. Vincent Dransfield (Little Falls,New Jersey) (b. 28 March 1914), 109 y.o.
8. Fortino Rocha (Texas) (b. 13 August 1914 in Mexico), 109 y.o.
9. Eugene Baltes (River Forest, Illinois) (b. 29 October 1914), 108 y.o.
10. D. Boyd Shank (South Dakota) (b. 5 November 1914), 108 y.o.

[Francis Zouein (California) (b. 1 January 1911? in Lebanon), 112? y.o. (unverified)]
[Joe Baker (Compton, Los Angeles C., California) (b. 29 January 1912/1919?), 111/104? y.o. (unverified)]
[Limbo: Alphonso Wilkerson (California) (b. 2 April 1913), 110? y.o.]

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I just realised that at the time of his death, Raymond Monroy was likely the oldest undisputed man in the US.


   
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