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Batuli Lamichhane (NEP, 1903?-2024)

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I'm going to start off this topic by saying that I think it is much less common than I personally had originally thought for people to make it past 118. However, one case does strike me as the most likely to be true, and that is Mrs. Batuli Lamichhane from Nepal!

Mrs. Lamichhane claims to have been born on March 23rd, although different sources say 1900, 1902 & 1903. Her family seems to go along with the 1902 birth year, putting her age at 120 years, +300 days. This birth year has been confirmed by her great grandson on Facebook.

I have been doing a very in depth research on this case, and in January 1934, she registered her age in the Nepalese Census as 30 years, 10 months with a birthdate of March 23, 1903, consistent to the same one announced in 2015! 

She has no evidence AGAINST her. Her youngest child is in their 80s as of 2023, and not unbelievable for the age she claims. There is also a record (although I now cannot remember precisely which year), of Mrs. Lamichhane from the 1930s in which she survived an earthquake that toppled her house. Again, in this record her date of birth is given as March 23, 1903.

Her family claimed a year or so ago that they had submitted her documentation to Guinness World Records for further investigation. They have since made a more recent claim that the process of verification is now in the final stages of verification by Guinness. Although, I must add I have not heard anything from Guinness themselves, and I'm not sure if this claim is true.

While these pieces of evidence rule in favor of Mrs. Lamichhane's age, we still cannot rule out an early in life sibling switch. We can also not yet rule out a mistaken identity. Now that I am aware of these possibilities, I think her case should be deeply investigated by LongeviQuest for further information. If early life documents such as a baptismal record exist, and if someone could locate a marriage certificate, I think this would strengthen her case by a magnitude. Hopefully the missing pieces of this puzzle exist, but until then we can't say one way or the other. Personally though, I feel she is easily the strongest 118+ case claim, and the one of the very few that has a chance of being true.

Her movements also are consistent with that of a SC. A video clip from 2015 when she was 112, shows her able to walk, although very slowly and with a bent back. Updates as recently as last month from her great grandson's Facebook page show that she is now wheelchair-bound and spends a lot of time in bed. 

I have a link to her great grandson's Facebook page, but I have not yet contacted him, as I would not want to intrude on her family's personal life. If her family's claim is true that she is in the final process of being verified by Guinness, then we will find out soon!

If I had to take a guess, I would say her correct birthdate is March 23, 1903 making her 119 300+ days old, and this birthdate matches perfectly with the 1934 Nepalese Census, and the 1930s story about her surviving the earthquake.

Thoughts on her case?

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As you’ll know “extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof” . And this would be the 2nd oldest ever.

Typically 3 early life documents (1st 20 years) would provide a solid start. From there if ongoing census and other data exist you may be able to build a continuous timeline for her, through to now, thereby reducing the chances of identity swap.

Build a family tree around her - parents, siblings, kids, grandkids etc. Track the lives of all siblings  and children as these are often the best avenues for identity swap.

If you can get that far then it will be worth digging deeper.

I think it was Young from the other website who once suggested that in his experience about 98% of 115+ cases were never validated. Others here may have more recent opinions.

So go in with an “appropriately sceptical” attitude and see what you dig up.


   
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I voted for 110-114 because the average marriage age for women in Nepal in 2016 was 20.1 ... and her eldest son was born in 1930 and one of her other sons was born in 1940 so her being born in the late 1900s or possibly even early 1910s it not slim in my opinion. I tink that she could have been born around mid 1900s to early 1910s so she might still be a supercentenarian just not as old as she claimed. She might have confused her birth date with someone else or another relative. Just my two cents.

 


   
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The average age for women in Nepal to be married was 20.1 in 2016, but it may have been different in the 1920s/30s. And I had no idea she had a son born in 1930, this certainly strengthens her case of being a SC! May I have a source for the 1930 birth date for her son please?

And doing in depth research on this case, I seem to have run into a lot of one way streets, as it's very difficult to find an organization I can contact and ask more questions. I think it's safe to say without a doubt she is 110, but to say she'll be 120 in March is a stretch. I seriously doubt she was born earlier than 1903.

Nevertheless, I still believe she has a chance. A slim chance, but a chance nonetheless and I'm willing to put in as much time and effort as it takes to get some more information because I believe in her. 

Thoughts on contacting her great grandson via Facebook? Or trying to contact the news station that interviewed her in 2015?

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@metajore Welcome to the Global Supercentenarian Forum!

Do you live in Nepal or near Nepal?

http://www.supercentenariditalia.it/persone-viventi-piu-longeve-in-italia.
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@ale76 I live in the us


   
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I just wanted to let you all know that I reached out to Mrs. Batuli Lamichhane's great grandson on Facebook this morning. Still waiting for a reply. I'm going to explain to him that applying for the WOLP record is free, and if he has any questions, I would be happy to help in any way I can, and that he is also free to create an account and join our forum. 

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Update on Mrs. Lamichhane. 

I have been speaking with her great grandson on Facebook and I explained to him that it is free to apply for the record. I'm not sure if the translation was translated properly, but he only responded with a question mark. I tried translating into Nepalese via Google, but he never responded to the latest message. I will let him contact me if he has any further questions. 

I found no sources or stories of her claimed 121st birthday (more likely 120), but I did indeed find an online post from this year on 23rd April, confirming that she did indeed reach 121 (again, more likely 120).

I have tried to find more information on her, but the only conclusive evidence I've found supporting her case is the January 1934 census listing her age as 30 years & 10 months. Like I've said, this would prove she really is 120, and was actually born in 1903. I did however find another source that stated an interview she did in the 1930s about surviving the Nepalese Earthquake was published along with her age in the newspaper. If someone can locate this document, it would add some credibility to her age. I still think she's a plausible case, but she's the only living case of a person over the age of 118 that I'd say is plausible. I'll keep you updated of anything else comes from this. 

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Mrs. Batuli Lamichhane confirmed alive on 8 June, 2023 by her great grandson, along with new picture. Her great grandson never let me know whether he understood my message about applying for the World Record. 

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Batuli Lamichhane confirmed alive via Facebook on 27 July, 2023

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Batuli Lamichhane claimed to have been born on 23 March 1902 in Sindhupalchowk District, Nepal and according to the article he died on 19 January 2024, please if anyone can confirm it for me I would appreciate it, as it seems that Nepal follows a different calendar, since from the translation the The year is 2080.
She claimed to have lived for 121 years then, so she would be the oldest person in the world if she was right, and would be the oldest known person in Nepal.
I don't know who the oldest living person in this country could be, does anyone have that information?

Falecimento de Batuli, de 121 anos | Correio Annapurna (annapurnapost.com)


   
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