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María Branyas Morera was born on 4th March, 1907 (GRG) or on 1st April, 1907 (ESO) in San Francisco, California and currently lives in Spain; she is the world's fourth-oldest living person.

 


   
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Maria Branyas Morera was born on 4th March, 1907 in San Francisco, California.

 

Not likely, for the following reasons:

1. A search of the state of California's vital records returned no birth record supporting a 4th March 1907 birth.

2. The earliest publicly available records (an original baptismal certificate from 1908 and a delayed baptismal certificate for 1909) both record her date of birth as 1st April 1907.

3. I believe the earliest record supporting a 4th March 1907 birthdate is an ID card from 1979 (I might be wrong about this, but the earliest such record is certainly MUCH later than 1908).

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Her status as the world's fourth-oldest validated living person is not in dispute, however.

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@Chris GRG validated her birthdate as 4th March, 1907. I argue, reading your explanation, it's plausible her birthdate was actually 1th April, but at the moment it seems an unofficial information.


   
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@Chris GRG validated her birthdate as 4th March, 1907. I argue, reading your explanation, it's plausible her birthdate was actually 1th April, but at the moment it seems an unofficial information.

From a perspective of a fan, maybe, but from a persprective of a researcher 1st April is a "safer" DOB than 4th March.

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@Chris GRG validated her birthdate as 4th March, 1907. I argue, reading your explanation, it's plausible her birthdate was actually 1th April, but at the moment it seems an unofficial information.

From a perspective of a fan, maybe, but from a persprective of a researcher 1st April is a "safer" DOB than 4th March.

So have I to edit the topic post?

 


   
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@Chris GRG validated her birthdate as 4th March, 1907. I argue, reading your explanation, it's plausible her birthdate was actually 1th April, but at the moment it seems an unofficial information.

From a perspective of a fan, maybe, but from a persprective of a researcher 1st April is a "safer" DOB than 4th March.

So have I to edit the topic post?

 

I believe something like what Marco wrote here would be safer: "She was born in San Francisco, California, USA, on 4 March 1907 (GRG) or 1 April 1907 (ESO)."

 

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Posted by: @wellabove110

@Chris GRG validated her birthdate as 4th March, 1907. I argue, reading your explanation, it's plausible her birthdate was actually 1th April, but at the moment it seems an unofficial information.

From a perspective of a fan, maybe, but from a persprective of a researcher 1st April is a "safer" DOB than 4th March.

Which is why the ESO went with 1st April.

It would be inappropriate for me to comment on the  GRG's own independent validation. Suffice it to say, the earliest available record is generally the most reliable indicator of a date of birth. There is no birth record supporting 4th March and I doubt the existence of an earlier record than the baptismal certificates mentioned above.

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@seto2001 Agreed

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A new photo of María, holding a photo of her husband. He passed away 46 years ago, on March 21 1976.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOXSXVXWYAYrfXD?format=jpg&name=large

 


   
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Her face looks different from it was some months ago: the nose is a bit more prominent. I don't understand whether it depends on a recent weight loss or on an other factor.


   
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@wellabove110 I think that we should refrain from commenting on the appearance of supercentenarians. It is extremely unprofessional.


   
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It's ok @930310 , but why phrases such as "she sharply declined in the last months" are tolerated, while my phrase isn't? Mine, of course, wasn't an aesthetics-based comment; I was rather questioning (implicitly though) whether my observation was explainable by specific aging factors or it was just an incorrect and subjective impression.


   
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New photo of Ms. Branyas Morera on her family's twitter.

http://www.supercentenariditalia.it/persone-viventi-piu-longeve-in-italia.
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Update

Ms. Branyas Morera now is the 3rd oldest living person of the world and the Doyenne of Spain.

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Following the sad passing of Mrs. Juniewicz, Mrs. Branyas Morera became the 2nd-oldest validated living person and the oldest validated living emigrant.

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@ale76 Still a beautiful lady at nearly 116.


   
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On 17 January 2023, following the sad passing of Sister André, Mrs. Branyas Morera became the WOP, World's Oldest living Person.

Congratulations!

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The title passes on.

Congratulations to Maria Branyas Morera, the new Worlds Oldest Person.


   
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Mrs Morera inherits the title at 115-319.

 

18 January 2023 is the first time the age of the WOP has fallen

 

1. below 118 since 2 Jan 2021 - 746 days.

2. Below 117 since 2 Jan 2020 - 1081 days

3. Below 116 since 2 Jan 2019 - 1477 days


   
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And the minor variation in potential dates of birth for becomes a little more important given her new status.

But importantly neither 4 March 1907, nor 1 April 1907 impact Mrs Morera's new status. 


   
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New photos of Ms. Branyas Morera (on 25 January 2023) with the mayor of Banyoles, a village where she has lived and that is close to Olot where she lives:

(screenshots available also in the future)

 

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New photos of María Branyas taken on January 25 2023:

 

https://twitter.com/AjBanyoles/status/1618237852030230534

 

 


   
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Other photos taken on 25th January from the Mayor’s visit to Ms. Branyas Morera:

http://www.supercentenariditalia.it/persone-viventi-piu-longeve-in-italia.
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In 1999, aged 91 or 92:

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Today

 

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