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Annie Lengers-Gerritsen died on 1 April 2023: 

 

https://www.noordhollandsdagblad.nl/cnt/dmf20230401_58743639?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic


   
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Maria Francisca Pinedo,born in Curacao,living in North Holland was born on 4 Apr 1914,but is not in the top ten,could she be included?

Or is it in limbo?,I have not yet found news of her death


   
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Maria Francisca Pinedo,born in Curacao,living in North Holland was born on 4 Apr 1914,but is not in the top ten,could she be included?

Or is it in limbo?,I have not yet found news of her death

Please, see 1st page of this topic.

GJK_1966 wrote: "It is now clear that Mrs. Pinedo DID die in March 2021, a month before her 107th birthday.".

 

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Top 10 Oldest Living People in the Netherlands as of 6th April 2023 (excluding anonymous unknown cases)
Today's update (RIP Ms. Lengers-Gerritsen)

1. Helena Barbara Maria Mackenbach (Rotterdam, South Holland) (b. 29 December 1912), 110 y.o.
2. Marina van der Es-Siewers (Hippolytushoef, North Holland) (b. 4 March 1913), 110 y.o.
3. Elisabeth Boerenveen (Willemstad, Curacao) (b. 11 September 1913 in Suriname), 109 y.o.
4. Maria Francisca (Ria) van Ham-Schoenmaker (Voorburg, South Holland) (b. 20 November 1913), 109 y.o.
5. Jan (Bloemendaal, North Holland) (b. 5 May 1914), 108 y.o. Doyen of the Netherlands
6. Caecilia Theodora Steens-Hermsen (Berg en Dal, Gelderland) (b. 26 November 1914), 108 y.o.
7. Vliesta Amelia Castien-Goudriaan (Zandvoort, North Holland) (b. 27 November 1914), 108 y.o.
8. Elizabeth Philippina van Boven-Smaal (Rotterdam, South Holland) (b. 5 January 1915), 108 y.o.
9. Sister Elseliene Fa-Si-Oen (Amsterdam, Noord-Holland) (b. 18 February 1915 in Suriname), 108 y.o.
10. Anni van den Berg-Thürer (Bergen op Zoom, North-Brabant) (b. 20 May 1915 in Switzerland), 108? y.o.

anonymous (Hilversum, North Holland) (b. 1 February 1914? in China), 109? y.o.

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Maria Francisca Pinedo,born in Curacao,living in North Holland was born on 4 Apr 1914,but is not in the top ten,could she be included?

Or is it in limbo?,I have not yet found news of her death

Please, see 1st page of this topic.

GJK_1966 wrote: "It is now clear that Mrs. Pinedo DID die in March 2021, a month before her 107th birthday.".

 

Thank You I really didn't see it, sorry

 


   
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Annie Lengers-Gerritsen died on 1 April 2023: 

https://www.noordhollandsdagblad.nl/cnt/dmf20230401_58743639?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic

 

Rest in peace, Mrs Lengers-Gerritsen.

Apparently, she was physically in good shape and mentally sharp until the end. Similar to Henny van Andel-Schipper and Egbertje Leutscher-de Vries, she donated her body/brains to science. Source, NOS, the national Dutch media broadcaster. It's extremely rare for a Dutch 108-year-old to make it to the front page of the NOS, so you can imagine my surprise when I saw her picture on the website.

NOS NieuwsVandaag, 09:03

'Pientere' 108-jarige doneert hersenen voor alzheimeronderzoek

 

Een van de oudste vrouwen van ons land, de 108-jarige Annie Lengers, doneert haar hersenen aan het Alzheimercentrum. De oudste bewoonster van Den Helder overleed afgelopen weekend.

Lengers was tot het laatste moment nog pienter en fit, schrijft NH Nieuws. Om die reden deed ze al enkele jaren mee met het 100-plusonderzoek van het Alzheimercentrum Amsterdam. Hoofdonderzoeker Henne Holstege: "Zoals haar brein nog functioneerde op 108-jarige leeftijd, dat is echt uniek. Ze was een fenomeen wat dat betreft."

Met het onderzoek willen het Alzheimercentrum en het Amsterdam UMC zoveel mogelijk te weten komen over gezonde 100-plussers. Dat de 108-jarige Lengers ervoor heeft gekozen haar brein te doneren aan de wetenschap, is voor dit onderzoek enorm waardevol, zegt Holstege.

Tv-programma

"We zoeken naar de correlatie tussen wat er in de hersenen gebeurt en wat voor effect dat heeft op de cognitie. We onderzoeken welke processen bij deze 100-plussers anders verlopen dan bij de meeste mensen. Zo hopen we te leren hoe we dementie kunnen voorkomen of uitstellen."

Lengers kreeg landelijke bekendheid door haar deelname aan het tv-programma 100 jaar jong, waar ze als 104-jarige aan meedeed. Holstege: "Ze was een heel leuke vrouw om mee te werken, altijd vrolijk. We zullen haar enorm missen."

 

Overduidelijk misschien.


   
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GJK wrote:

Last week, an article about a 102 year old woman from Leiden was published on the internet site of the municipality of Leiden (in South Holland).

https://gemeente.leiden.nl/bestuur/publ ... lenferink/

It mentions that the oldest person from Leiden turned 111 year 'at the beginning of the year'.
This obviously indicates to a person born in 1912. From other data we know that a Moroccan woman turned 105 in July 2017, and that she HAS to live in the municipality of Leiden.
Her DOB is probably listed as '1912-00-00' in the Leiden systems.

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The Doyen of the Netherlands, known as Jan, celebrated his 109th birthday.

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Top 10 Oldest Living People in the Netherlands as of 8th May 2023 (excluding anonymous unknown cases)
Today's update (Mr. van Ierland turned 109)

1. Helena Barbara Maria Mackenbach (Rotterdam, South Holland) (b. 29 December 1912), 110 y.o.
2. Marina van der Es-Siewers (Hippolytushoef, North Holland) (b. 4 March 1913), 110 y.o.
3. Elisabeth Boerenveen (Willemstad, Curacao) (b. 11 September 1913 in Suriname), 109 y.o.
4. Maria Francisca (Ria) van Ham-Schoenmaker (Voorburg, South Holland) (b. 20 November 1913), 109 y.o.
5. Jan van Ierland (Bloemendaal, North Holland) (b. 5 May 1914), 109 y.o. Doyen of the Netherlands
6. Caecilia Theodora Steens-Hermsen (Berg en Dal, Gelderland) (b. 26 November 1914), 108 y.o.
7. Vliesta Amelia Castien-Goudriaan (Zandvoort, North Holland) (b. 27 November 1914), 108 y.o.
8. Elizabeth Philippina van Boven-Smaal (Rotterdam, South Holland) (b. 5 January 1915), 108 y.o.
9. Sister Elseliene Fa-Si-Oen (Amsterdam, Noord-Holland) (b. 18 February 1915 in Suriname), 108 y.o.
10. Anni van den Berg-Thürer (Bergen op Zoom, North-Brabant) (b. 20 May 1915 in Switzerland), 108? y.o.

Anonymous (Hilversum, North Holland) (b. 1 February 1914? in China), 109? y.o.

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Elseliene Harriette Fa-Si-Oen, also known as 'Tante Es' ('Aunt Es'; born on 18 February 1915 in Suriname), confirmed alive as of 11 May 2023:

 

https://www.parool.nl/ps/tante-es-108-uit-de-rivierenbuurt-is-voor-ajax-verkoos-altijd-reizen-boven-mannen-en-geniet-van-haar-volle-leven-ik-hoop-dat-ik-nog-even-door-mag~b73db620/


   
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Catharina Maria (Trien) Ligthart-Braakman (born on 27 May 1915) celebrated her 108th birthday:

 

https://www.noordhollandsdagblad.nl/cnt/dmf20230602_50795294?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic


   
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Top 10 Oldest Living People in the Netherlands as of 13th June 2023 (excluding anonymous unknown cases)
Today's update (Ms. van den Berg-Thürer turned 108; RIP Ms. van Ham-Schoenmaker)

1. Helena Barbara Maria Mackenbach (Rotterdam, South Holland) (b. 29 December 1912), 110 y.o.
2. Marina van der Es-Siewers (Hippolytushoef, North Holland) (b. 4 March 1913), 110 y.o.
3. Elisabeth Boerenveen (Willemstad, Curacao) (b. 11 September 1913 in Suriname), 109 y.o.
4.
Jan van Ierland (Bloemendaal, North Holland) (b. 5 May 1914), 109 y.o. Doyen of the Netherlands
5. Caecilia Theodora Steens-Hermsen (Berg en Dal, Gelderland) (b. 26 November 1914), 108 y.o.
6. Vliesta Amelia Castien-Goudriaan (Zandvoort, North Holland) (b. 27 November 1914), 108 y.o.
7. Elizabeth Philippina van Boven-Smaal (Rotterdam, South Holland) (b. 5 January 1915), 108 y.o.
8. Sister Elseliene Fa-Si-Oen (Amsterdam, North-Holland) (b. 18 February 1915 in Suriname), 108 y.o.
9. Anni van den Berg-Thürer (Bergen op Zoom, North-Brabant) (b. 20 May 1915 in Switzerland), 108 y.o.
10. Catharina Maria Ligthart-Braakman (Wognum, North Holland) (b. 27 May 1915), 108 y.o.

anonymous (Hilversum, North Holland) (b. 1 February 1914? in China), 109? y.o.

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@ale76 / everyone

On Jan. 1, 2023, the municipality of Haarlem had one female, born in 1914.
This could be either Mrs. Akker, OR an anonymous woman, born in September 1914.
Also, on that date, either Rotterdam or Haarlem had a woman, born in September 1914, in Iran.

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Do we know if Mrs. Mackenbach was alive on 1 January 2023?

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@charlesm09 No, unfortunately we do not.

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@charlesm09 It is easy to find out whether a person is alive or not. It costs a couple of bucks.

Problem is that I don't know whether I am allowed to share this knowledge with you. 


   
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Just found out that Mrs. Korneliske (Corrie) Akker-Blaauwbroek (from Haarlem) passed away on January 3, 2022. She was born on June 1, 1914.

Up till now, she was listed as 'Corrie Akker (28 May 1914)'.

https://www.online-begraafplaatsen.nl/graf/1984484/3172248/Corrie-Blaauwbroek-1914-2022

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Both Catharina Maria Ligthart-Braakman (27 May 1915) from Wognum (NH) and Maria Pieternella Platteel-Klingeman (2 June 1915) from Gorinchem (ZH) turned 108 recently.

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Catharina Ligthart-Braakman from North Holland, born 27/May/1915 is the new top 10?


   
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'My' top 10 of the oldest people in the Netherlands. We are still not sure if Mrs. Mackenbach made it to 2023.

1 unknown female (xx-xx-1912) te Leiden (ZH)!* - from Morocco
2 Helena Barbara Maria Mackenbach (29-12-1912) te Rotterdam (ZH)
3 Marina Femke van der Es-Siewers (04-03-1913) te Wieringerwaard (NH)!
4 unknown male (01-02-1914) te Hilversum (NH)°# - from China
5 Joannes Franciscus Alphonsus Aloysius van Ierland (05-05-1914) te Bloemendaal (NH)
6 unknown female (xx-09-1914) te Haarlem (NH) or Rotterdam (ZH) – from Iran
7 Caecilia Theodora Steens-Hermsen (26-11-1914) te Berg en Dal (GL)!
8 Vliesta Amelia Castien-Goudriaan (27-11-1914) te Zandvoort (NH)
9 Elizabeth Philippina van Boven-Smaal (05-01-1915) te Capelle aan den IJssel (ZH)
10 Elseline Harriette Angelique Fa Si-Oen (18-02-1915) te Amsterdam (NH)

11 Anni van den Berg-Thürer (20-05-1915) te Bergen op Zoom (NB)!
12 Catharina Maria Ligthart-Braakman (27-05-1915) te Wognum (NH)
13 Maria Pieternella Platteel-Klingeman (02-06-1915) te Gorinchem (ZH)

GJK


   
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@GJK_1966 What does the exclamation mark mean?

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@charlesm09

Since the late eighties, I have been using 'symbols' in my lists to indicate certain features about the oldest persons (mostly women):

! = oldest in the provence

° = oldest man in the provence

* = oldest in the country

# = oldest man in the country

^ = oldest woman in the provence (when a man is older)

~ = oldest woman in the country (when a man is older)

NL has 12 provinces. I don't care about the overseas territories; neither do I have access to age related data about them.

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Video of 108-year-old Elseline Harriette Angelique Fa Si-Oen:

 

https://www.nhnieuws.nl/nieuws/323388/tante-es-is-de-oudste-inwoner-van-amsterdam-ik-geniet-van-het-leven

 

She's a fan of football club Ajax (just like Hendrikje van Andel-Schipper) and recently visited her first match at the Johan Cruyff Arena. At the end, she said: 'I hope to live for as long as possible. I enjoy life'. Such a lovely woman!


   
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GJK_1966 wrote:
The latest data for the Netherlands show that the Municipality of Rotterdam, as per 1 January 2023, had ONE female person of 105 years OR older that was unmarried.
The year before, there were no unmarried 104-year-olds, and during 2022 no person of 104 years OR older moved to Rotterdam.
Per 1 January 2022, there also was ONE female person of 105 years OR older that was unmarried (in Rotterdam).

This means that Ms. H.B.M. (Leny) Mackenbach MUST has reached her 110th birthday (on 29 December 2022) and made it to 2023.

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Caecilia (Cis) Theodora Steens-Hermsen celebrated her 109th birthday: 

 

https://henkbaron.nl/2023/11/27/burgemeester-bezoekt-de-109-jarige-mevrouw-steens/


   
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In October, Mrs. Anni van den Berg-Thürer (born 20-05-1915) from Bergen op Zoom (NB) has passed away.


   
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Top 10 Oldest Living People in the Netherlands as of 30th November 2023 (excluding anonymous unknown cases)
Today's update (Ms. Steens-Hermesen turned 109; RIP Ms. van den Berg-Thürer)

1. Helena Barbara Maria Mackenbach (Rotterdam, South Holland) (b. 29 December 1912), 110 y.o.
2. Marina van der Es-Siewers (Hippolytushoef, North Holland) (b. 4 March 1913), 110 y.o.
3. Elisabeth Boerenveen (Willemstad, Curacao) (b. 11 September 1913 in Suriname), 110? y.o.
4.
Jan van Ierland (Bloemendaal, North Holland) (b. 5 May 1914), 109 y.o. Doyen of the Netherlands
5. Caecilia Theodora Steens-Hermsen (Berg en Dal, Gelderland) (b. 26 November 1914), 109 y.o.
6. Vliesta Amelia Castien-Goudriaan (Zandvoort, North Holland) (b. 27 November 1914), 109? y.o.
7. Elizabeth Philippina van Boven-Smaal (Rotterdam, South Holland) (b. 5 January 1915), 108 y.o.
8. Sister Elseliene Fa-Si-Oen (Amsterdam, North-Holland) (b. 18 February 1915 in Suriname), 108 y.o.
9. Catharina Maria Ligthart-Braakman (Wognum, North Holland) (b. 27 May 1915), 108 y.o.
10. Maria Pieternella Platteel-Klingeman (Gorinchem, South Holland) (b. 2 June 1915), 108 y.o.

anonymous (Leiden, South Holland) (b. 1912? in Morocco), 110? y.o.
anonymous (Hilversum, North Holland) (b. 1 February 1914? in China), 109? y.o.
anonymous (Harleem or Rotterdam) (b. on September 1914? in Iran), 109? y.o.

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In October, Mrs. Anni van den Berg-Thürer (born 20-05-1915) from Bergen op Zoom (NB) has passed away.

Do you have any source for this information?

 


   
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Yes, on https://opendata.cbs.nl/statline/, every month the number of people that were alive on the first of the month are published.
This is done for every age class, except that the group '105 years and older' is combined. These data are published for sex, age, and migration background.
So, from June 2020 to October 2023, we had ONE woman in the group '105 years and older' that was born in Switzerland (on 1 November, there were none).
And that was Mrs. Van den Berg-Thürer.
However, up till now that is the only 'source' I have found; no obituary or any other reference to her passing has been published.

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Update on Ciel Steens, who turned 109 on 26 November.

Source, but originally from De Gelderlander.

https://www.gelderlander.nl/berg-en-dal/dit-is-de-oudste-inwoner-van-gelderland-maar-op-de-vraag-of-ze-110-wil-worden-zegt-ciel-duidelijk-nee~a73fc0fc/238130099 /" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Ciel Steens-Hermens, 109 jaar oud.

 
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Ciel Steens-Hermens, 109 jaar oud. © Gerard Verschooten

Dit is de oudste inwoner van Gelderland, maar op de vraag of ze 110 wil worden, zegt Ciel duidelijk: ‘Nee!’

Ciel Steens woonde bijna haar leven lang in Nijmegen en slijt het staartje van haar oude dag in een verpleeghuis in Berg en Dal. 110 jaar hoeft ze niet te worden, zegt ze. 109 vindt de oudste van Gelderland mooi genoeg.
Leo Klaassen 04-12-23, 11:56

 
26 november 1914. Pieter Cort van der Linden was minister-president, de Eerste Wereldoorlog zou vast en zeker vóór Kerstmis uitgevochten zijn en in Nederland zou de eerste radiouitzending nog vijf jaar op zich laten wachten. En in de Ten Katestraat in het Nijmeegse Willemskwartier werd de kleine Ciel Hermsen geboren.
 
 
En nu zit ze aan tafel in de gezelligheidsruimte van haar verpleeghuis in Berg en Dal. Achter haar hangen nog de ballonnen van haar verjaardag, en voor haar zitten haar dochter Joke (80) en ‘jonge’ zus Greet (95). Ze zijn een beetje de spreekbuis voor de oude dame. Ze hoort amper meer, en spreken lukt ook bijna niet. ,,Ze was toch al nooit een grote prater", zegt Joke Leander. ,,Maar goede zin had ze altijd. Ze zorgde goed voor zichzelf en haar vier kinderen. Het is een kalm leven geweest.”

Burgemeesters

Het is een leven dat van geen ophouden weet. Negen jaar geleden kreeg Steens burgemeester Bruls van Nijmegen op bezoek, omdat ze de eeuw aantikte. Nooit had ze gedacht dat negen jaar later Mark Slinkman van Berg en Dal met zijn ketting om voor de deur zou staan. Sinds vorig jaar is ze zelfs de oudste van Gelderland. Maar daarvoor krijg je natuurlijk geen feestje, want daarvoor moet er iemand doodgaan.
 
We kwamen uit een rood nest, dus ze vond het wel heel mooi dat Den Uyl dat premier werd

-Greet Hermsen, Zus van Ciel Steens-Hermsen

107 jaar zelfstandig

Maar nu, zo na haar 109de verjaardag, wil Steens best een keer op de foto voor de krant. De goede kleren aan, het haar op orde. Het zal wel de laatste keer zijn, denkt ze. Of nee, hóópt ze. ‘Mwoah’, klinkt het eerst na de vraag of het leuk is om 109 te zijn geworden.
Ze fronst erbij. Ze vindt het maar niks dat ze, na wel 107 jaar van zelfstandigheid in Nijmegen, nu doof is, niet zelf uit bed kan komen, kortademig is, en geen boodschappen meer kan doen. Of ze nog de oudste van Nederland wil worden, of anders gewoon eerst even 110?: ,,Nee!”
Maar het leven is verder zeker de moeite waard geweest voor Ciel Steens-Hermens, vertellen zus en dochter. Haar werk als jonge meid bij de zijdespinnerij Nyma aan de Waal, haar rol als echtgenote, moeder, oma en overgrootmoeder: het leven trok kalm en vol tevredenheid voorbij. De band met haar broer en drie zussen was warm en hecht. ,,Met haar zussen Truus en Jo woonde ze jarenlang tot op hoge leeftijd in Dukenburg, alledrie op een andere verdieping”, zegt Greet. ,,Ze noemde ze de Drie Musketiers.”

Opgeschoven trouwdag

De Grote Wereldgeschiedenis kreeg weinig vat op het leven van Ciel. Ja, haar trouwdag werd een paar dagen opgeschoven vanwege de Duitse inval in 1940. En haar man Piet - ze moet hem al 36 jaar missen - moest onder dwang over de grens gaan werken: ,,Maar verder was het leven gewoon. Ja, we kwamen uit een rood nest, dus ze vond het wel heel mooi dat Den Uyl dat premier werd.”
In het verpleeghuis speelt Steens nog altijd graag een potje kaart, of zet ze zich aan de Mens Erger Je Niet. Haar tegenstander moet dan wel de pionnetjes voor haar verzetten, en een beetje meekijken bij het jokeren mag tegenwoordig ook. En verder houdt de 109-jarige zich bezig met haar veelgevraagde geheim: ,,Gewoon doorademen, dan gaat het vanzelf.”
 

https://www.gelderlander.nl/berg-en-dal/dit-is-de-oudste-inwoner-van-gelderland-maar-op-de-vraag-of-ze-110-wil-worden-zegt-ciel-duidelijk-nee~a73fc0fc/238168034 /" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Ciel Steens met de Berg en Dalse burgemeester Mark Slinkman en haar zus Greet.

 
Ciel Steens met de Berg en Dalse burgemeester Mark Slinkman en haar zus Greet. © Joop Verstraaten

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