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09/03/2023 7:21 am

@mendocino that would mean denying her of her title of oldest known person ever at the time. Of course, a birth record would be beneficial but there really isn't any dispute that Underwood was older than Thomas.

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09/03/2023 7:33 am

I was actually referring initially to Eliza Underwood in particular in the back part of my post to you 930310.

However I have heard before of some of the issues that Mendocino has raised in respect of her.

At this stage it appears that the birthdates used in the two respective validations are still 14th and 25th of April 1867 respectively.

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09/03/2023 8:33 am

The validation also means that Fannie Thomas was the first 113 + year old person to outlive another (including a younger) fellow person who had also reached 113.

in simple terms the earliest know date for two living 113 year old people is now 25 April 1980.

it was previously the dubious 113th birthday of Matthew Beard (9 July 1983) when he supposedly joined Emma Wilson at 113, until her death on 12 October 1983.

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Topic starter 10/03/2023 10:15 am

Mary Maiurino (USA, 24 Oct 1907 – 20 Nov 2019, 112) validated by LQ.

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10/03/2023 2:08 pm

Mathew Beards age is still not updated on the gerontology wiki page, plus tomas figureos gerontology wikipage should be changed to 24 march 1906, making him 114 years 184 days.

https://longeviquest.com/supercentenarians/tomas-pinales-figuereo/

https://longeviquest.com/2023/03/mathew-beard-status-reclassification/

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Topic starter 11/03/2023 7:43 am

Irving Piken (USA, 20 Dec 1908 – 27 Feb 2020, 111) and
Dexter Kruger (AUS, 13 Jan 1910 – 20 July 2021, 111) validated by LQ.

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11/03/2023 8:15 am

Thank you for the update Ale and congratulations to the families of both gentlemen.

People may know that Dexter Kruger was an author and a real personality in Australia, whose age claim was very strong.

So people in this part of the world will be delighted to see him validated.

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12/03/2023 11:55 pm

Hello everyone,

I am happy to share with you that the European Supercentenarian Organisation (ESO) and LongeviQuest (LQ) have reached a formal agreement on mutual recognition and partnership. Moving forward, we each recognize the legitimacy of each other’s research and consider each other Accredited Partner Organisations.

This agreement follows months of dialogue between me and the co-founders of ESO – Dr. Andrew Holmes, Chris Law, and Marco Wikkerink – as well as discussions between the three of them and ESO’s family of correspondents. The result is an agreement which grants ESO equal stature to LQ Subsidiaries for research and validation purposes. That means a few things, including:

Immediately, LQ recognizes 885 cases validated by ESO. These cases were compiled by ESO leadership and reviewed by the LQ Research Leadership Team. Because it will take some time to input all of these into the LQ Directory, we will soon share the list separately to confirm our recognition of these cases. Additionally, ESO recognizes all LQ validations.
ESO will now be represented on the Global Validation Commission. The ESO Commissioner will have equal voting power to the Commissioners representing LQ Subsidiaries. They will vote on validations, including those sourced from LQ, and will also be empowered to enforce (and refine) validation standards and procedures.
Validations sourced from ESO will have Accredited Status, giving them the “benefit of the doubt” and requiring a higher threshold for rejection by the Global Validation Commission. For validation approval purposes, ESO cases and LQ cases will be treated the same.

It is important to note that this is a partnership, not a merger. The mutual recognition agreement only covers future cases which are submitted to the Global Validation Commission, but no ESO researcher will ever be compelled to submit cases to LQ. This agreement represents collaboration in the purest sense, enabling us to achieve together even more than we have already achieved apart.

You will hear more from the leadership of both ESO and LQ in the coming days. This is an exciting time for our field!

Best regards,

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Topic starter 13/03/2023 1:16 am

Matilda D'Souza (IND, 25 Oct 1911 – present, 111) and
Christine Spero (USA, 10 Oct 1912 – 24 Feb 2023, 110) validated by LQ.

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13/03/2023 2:14 am

@ben this is fantastic news! Congratulations to all involved. I like the arrangement which gives mutual respect, and acknowledgement to all involved in both groups. Well done!

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Topic starter 14/03/2023 7:29 am

Rachel Bateman (CAN, 16 Jan 1865 – 18 Mar 1976, 111),
Koyo Hirai (JPN, 10 Mar 1909 – 8 Oct 2021, 112),
Natsuko Sakai (JPN, 12 June 1909 – 7 Aug 2021, 112),
Shina Seki (JPN, 1 Oct 1909 – present, 113) and
Marie-Anne Lacombe Doucet (CAN, 11 Mar 1912 – 30 July 2022, 110) validated by LQ.

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Ms. Seki (at 112) in September 2022.

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14/03/2023 8:59 am

It appears Rachel Bateman’s death date was the same March date in 1976.

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Topic starter 15/03/2023 8:59 am

Sakae Shimizu (JPN, 22 Mar 1909 – 27 June 2021, 112) validated by LQ.

Recognized LAS & ESO validations added to LQ:
Máxima Ramona Cabrera Alfaro (URU, 1893–2004)
Catalina Reyes (MEX/USA, 1907–2018)
Sofía Castillo Sánchez (MEX, 1910–2021)
Narcisa Olivarez García (MEX, 1910–2021)
Eulalia Bravo Bravo (MEX, 1913–present)
Domenica Ercolani (ITA, 1910-present)
Claudia Baccarini (ITA, 1910-present)
Lucia Laura Sangenito (ITA, 1910-present) (and confimed alive as of 15 March 2023)
Marie-Rose Tessier (FRA, 1910-present)

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15/03/2023 9:27 am

Also recognised by LQ:

Francesca Fioriglio, ITA, 111, 11 Jan 1912 - Present. Link.

Louise Flandrin, FRA, 110, 22 Jan 1913 - Present. Link.

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16/03/2023 5:15 pm

Recognised by LQ:

Eli Lindsay, UK/CAN, 110, 28 Feb 1858 - 24 Nov 1968. Link.

Ida Schorn, GER/USA, 111, 4 May 1864 - 8 Mar 1976. Link.

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16/03/2023 7:22 pm

Although it seems that it is not recognized, LGCF had also validated Marie-Rose Tessier and Louise Flandrin.

GRG correspondent for France (October 2012-20/04/2023)

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Topic starter 17/03/2023 7:41 am

Gertrude Stern (USA, 27 Feb 1910 – 11 Apr 2022, 112) validated by LQ.

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17/03/2023 11:00 am

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Although it seems that it is not recognized, LGCF had also validated Marie-Rose Tessier and Louise Flandrin.

I believe LQ is now also giving recognition to LGCF. From Marguerite Larmignat's profile page, for instance:

Recognition
Her age was verified by the Les Grands Centenaires Français, and validated by the ESO on 21 March 2021.

On 15 December 2021, following the death of Marcel Meys, she became the oldest living person in the region of Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes.

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17/03/2023 12:15 pm

Recognised by LQ:

Rosa De Vita, ITA, 112, 8 Feb 1911 - Present. Link.

Marguerite Larmignat, FRA, 112, 9 Feb 1911 - Present. Link. (Validation efforts by LGCF also recognised.)

Edna Strickland, UK, 112, 6 Mar 1911 - Present. Link.

Ines Sommovigo, ITA, 111, 6 Nov 1911 - Present. Link.

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Topic starter 19/03/2023 3:20 am

Mary Katherine „Kathryn“ Shelley (USA, 4 Sept 1909 – 12 Nov 2021, 112) validated by LQ.

ESO cases that were added to LQ:
Catherine Abate (ITA/USA, 1909-2022, 112)

Marcelle Adda (FRA, 1905-1917, 111)

Amelia Addari (ITA, 1912-Living, 110)

Harold Bracher (UK, 1904-2016, 111)

Ida Schorn (POL/USA, 1864-1976, 111)

Eli Lindsay (UK/CAN, 1858-1968, 110)

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19/03/2023 9:32 am

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Mary Katherine „Kathryn“ Shelley (USA, 4 Sept 1909 – 12 Nov 2021, 112) validated by LQ.
ESO cases that were added to LQ:
Catherine Abate (ITA/USA, 1909-2022, 112)
Marcelle Adda (FRA, 1905-1917, 111)
Amelia Addari (ITA, 1912-Living, 110)
Harold Bracher (UK, 1904-2016, 111)
Ida Schorn (POL/USA, 1864-1976, 111)
Eli Lindsay (UK/CAN, 1858-1968, 110)

+ Jánosné Kerner, HUN, 23 Dec 1909 - 21 Dec 2020, 110 years and 364 days. Link.

+ Margaret Perring, UK, 1 Mar 1905 - 11 Mar 2015, 110 years and 10 days. Link.

+ Karin Larsson, SWE, 17 May 1904 - 24 May 2014, 110 years and 7 days. Link.

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Topic starter 21/03/2023 10:09 am

Clarence Matthews (USA, 1 May 1906 – 22 July 2017, 111),
Eva Carrier-Delisle (CAN, 29 Apr 1908 – 22 Nov 2019, 111),
Ella Gertrude Ellison (USA, 16 May 1908 – 25 Mar 2020, 111) validated by LQ.

LAS-validated SCs added to LQ:
Teresa Amparán (MEX/USA, 1887–1998, 110)
Celina Fernández de Pacheco (CRI, 1906–2016, 110)
Natalia López (MEX (formerly USA), 1906–2017, 110)
Beatriz Pirelli Zanandrea (URU, 1910–2021, 110)

ESO-validated SCs added to LQ:
Francesca Adelfio (ITA, 1879–1989, 110)
Hertha Åkerlind (SWE, 1908–2018, 110)
Andrée Guyon (FRA, 6 June 1911 – present, 111)
Julia Amant (FRA, 1911–2021, 110)
Antonia Manzi (ITA, 20 Feb 1912 – present, 111)
Mary Keir (UK, 3 Mar 1912 – present)
Magda Janssens (BEL, 16 Mar 1912 – present, 111).

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Topic starter 23/03/2023 8:55 am

Marjorie Cooke (AUS, 5 Jan 1906 – 1 Sept 2017, 111),
Bernice King (USA, 4 Apr 1907 – 28 Mar 2019, 111),
Lona Collins (USA, 18 June 1907 – 22 June 2019, 112),

Masa Matsumoto (JPN, 29 Nov 1909 – present, 113),
Erasto Alvarado Núñez (MEX/USA, 25 July 1912 – 2 Feb 2023, 110) and
Hazel Schultz (CAN/USA, 12 Jan 1913 – present, 110) validated by LQ.

ESO-validated SCs added to LQ:
Mollie Walker (UK, 1909–2022, 112),
Maria da Encarnação Nunes de Sousa (POR, 1909–2022, 113),
Rose Eaton (UK, 1909–2022, 113) and
Marie Andersen (NOR, 1909–2020, 110).

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Topic starter 27/03/2023 11:29 pm

Ada Avila (ECU/USA, 14 Jan 1910-present, 113)
Ruby Cumberland (CAN, 12 May 1911-16 July 2021, 110) validated by LQ.

LAS-validated SCs added to LQ:
Jovita Maria de Jesus (BRA, 1904–2015, 110)
Ernesta García Hernández (PRI/USA, 1910–2021, 110)
María de Jesús Peña García (MEX, 1912–2022, 110)

ESO-validated SCs added to LQ;
Florence Anderson (UK, 1903-2013, 110)
Esther Annenberg (UK, 1909-2020, 111)
Maria Carmela Ricci (ITA, 1912-present, 111)
Marie Guerne (SWI, 1912-present, 111)
Marie-Noëlle Duhamel (FRA, 1912-present, 110)
Marie-Louise André (FRA, 1912-present, 110)

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28/03/2023 6:18 pm

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ESO-validated SCs added to LQ;
Florence Anderson (UK, 1903-2013, 110)
Esther Annenberg (UK, 1909-2020, 111)
Maria Carmela Ricci (ITA, 1912-present, 111)
Marie Guerne (SWI, 1912-present, 111)
Marie-Noëlle Duhamel (FRA, 1912-present, 110)
Marie-Louise André (FRA, 1912-present, 110)

+ Ethel Anderson, UK, 9 Apr 1905 - 4 Dec 2015, 110 years and 239 days. Link.

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Topic starter 28/03/2023 10:34 pm

Annie Bernice Wallace (USA, 25 Mar 1907 – 15 Feb 2019, 111)
Charlotte Strehlow (USA, 18 July 1908 – 6 Dec 2019, 111) validated by LQ.

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Topic starter 29/03/2023 10:23 pm

Ettie Crist (USA, 14 Feb 1862 – 10 Jan 1974, 111),
Carrie Wood (USA, 22 July 1863 – 27 June 1974, 110),
Bessie Riehl (CAN, 30 Aug 1911 – 26 Mar 2022, 110) validated by LQ.

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Topic starter 31/03/2023 7:21 am

Silveria Martín Díaz (ESP, 20 June 1910 – present, 112) validated by LQ.

ESO-validated SCs added to LQ:
Lydia Åslund (SWE, 14 Nov 1902 – 19 Nov 2012, 110)
Eileen Ash (UK, 30 Oct 1911 – 3 Dec 2021, 110).

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Topic starter 01/04/2023 8:59 pm

Jelisaveta Veljković (CRO/SRB, 18 July 1904 – 20 Oct 2016, 112),
Helen White (USA, 21 Sept 1906 – 16 Oct 2018, 112),
Yvonne Delorme-Martel (CAN, 22 Oct 1909 – 7 Apr 2022, 112) validated by LQ.

LAS-validated SCs added to LQ:
Zoraida Ormaeche Rojas (PER, 1901–2011, 110),
Josefina Snyder-Jara (MEX/USA, 1909–2019, 110),
Bruno García Raygoza (MEX, 1909–2020, 110).

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Topic starter 04/04/2023 7:11 am

Florence Tabbert (USA, 25 Dec 1878 – 14 Mar 1990, 111)
Helene Sandvig (USA, 25 Nov 1911 – present, 111) validated by LQ.

LAS-validated SCs added to LQ:
Maria Balbina Régis Alexandre (BRA, 1902–2012, 110)
Carlos Valenzuela Castro (PER/USA, 1905–2016, 110).

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