Hey everyone I was researching supercentenarians as usual, and I came across one I had never heard of. A claim from Mexico, Mr. Elias Chavez Alvarez. I did some searching and found he is listed back in 2021 as plausible but in limbo. The link I found is in Spanish, and I cannot read it, but it appears to confirm that he is now 114 years of age? I'll post it down below. Has anyone here heard of Mr. Alvarez? Or know whether he has been debunked? I had never heard of Mr. Alvarez, but his case seems plausible, and I would be interested in finding more information on his case. I would be happy to do some more researching and see what I can find. Thoughts?

Here's the link

https://emprendedor.com/el-hombre-mas-longevo-del-mundo-podria-ser-un-mexicano/?amp

I contacted the nursing home in which Mr. Elias Chavez Alvarez lives and let them know that it is free to apply for the record... Claiming to have been born on November 08, 1908, he may be the oldest living man at 114... 

Then I heard a response back from the nursing home...

I spoke with them this morning and they told me that they are not going to submit Mr. Alvarez's documents because his family says he's only in his 90s. I don't know about everyone's opinions on here, but I think that is enough to consider him debunked. 

A bit suspicious how his family says he's in his 90s, but the nursing home states he is 114. My opinion? The most likely scenario is that 8 years ago when Mr. Alvarez first moved into the nursing home, he believed he was 106 and told that to the staff. In reality he was probably only 86. Now, 8 years later the nursing home believes he's 114, when he's probably only 94.

Thoughts?

Posted by: @aquanaut_chalk

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I contacted the nursing home in which Mr. Elias Chavez Alvarez lives and let them know that it is free to apply for the record... Claiming to have been born on November 08, 1908, he may be the oldest living man at 114... 

Then I heard a response back from the nursing home...

I spoke with them this morning and they told me that they are not going to submit Mr. Alvarez's documents because his family says he's only in his 90s. I don't know about everyone's opinions on here, but I think that is enough to consider him debunked. 

A bit suspicious how his family says he's in his 90s, but the nursing home states he is 114. My opinion? The most likely scenario is that 8 years ago when Mr. Alvarez first moved into the nursing home, he believed he was 106 and told that to the staff. In reality he was probably only 86. Now, 8 years later the nursing home believes he's 114, when he's probably only 94.

Thoughts?

His 1994 voting card lists his age as "86", so we can be sure that he was consistent about his claimed age for at least 28 years. 

Who is this "family" they're referring to? Every report I've read has implied that he doesn't have any family members (he never married or had kids) and was "rescued" by the Integral Development of Families (DIF) of Colima in 2015 after being found wandering the streets alone. 

I imagine he's much younger than claimed, but I would be surprised if he were only 94, especially considering he already looked quite old nearly 30 years ago. Have you ever seen a 94 year old who looks like this? I imagine he's probably around 104.

When I spoke with them, they told me that his daughters and his grandkids all assured that he was in his 90s. 

Of the reports I had read, I had also never heard of him having kids or other family members. I had assumed I read something wrong, but now that you've confirmed I did not make a mistake, this case is beginning to turn into a deep rabbit hole. 

I just wanted to let everyone know I have found multiple inconsistencies with the case of Mr. Elias Chavez Alvarez. I feel bad about this, but I am no longer going to research his case, due to all the inconsistent things I've found. I highly doubt he's actually 114 after the talk I had with the nursing home staff. I tried my best, but unfortunately I didn't get too far in this case. Anyway whether he is 114 or 94 or whatever age he is, cheers to Mr. Alvarez who is a good man and a veteran of the Mexican War. May he have many more happy years at his nursing home.

Although he was probably born in 1922, Mr. Modesto Lopez Bautista of Mexico passed away yesterday at the claimed age of 114 years & 36 days. May he R.I.P.

Posted by: @aquanaut_chalk

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Although he was probably born in 1922, Mr. Modesto Lopez Bautista of Mexico passed away yesterday at the claimed age of 114 years & 36 days. May he R.I.P.

I can't access it, but here's the source:

https://www.kget.com/news/local-news/114-year-old-kern-resident-modesto-lopez-bautista-dies/

RIP Modesto Lopez Bautista

Posted by: @heatwave116

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Posted by: @aquanaut_chalk

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Although he was probably born in 1922, Mr. Modesto Lopez Bautista of Mexico passed away yesterday at the claimed age of 114 years & 36 days. May he R.I.P.

I can't access it, but here's the source:

https://www.kget.com/news/local-news/114-year-old-kern-resident-modesto-lopez-bautista-dies/

RIP Modesto Lopez Bautista

May he RIP. 🙁

Posted by: @mendocino

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Posted by: @aquanaut_chalk

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I contacted the nursing home in which Mr. Elias Chavez Alvarez lives and let them know that it is free to apply for the record... Claiming to have been born on November 08, 1908, he may be the oldest living man at 114... 

Then I heard a response back from the nursing home...

I spoke with them this morning and they told me that they are not going to submit Mr. Alvarez's documents because his family says he's only in his 90s. I don't know about everyone's opinions on here, but I think that is enough to consider him debunked. 

A bit suspicious how his family says he's in his 90s, but the nursing home states he is 114. My opinion? The most likely scenario is that 8 years ago when Mr. Alvarez first moved into the nursing home, he believed he was 106 and told that to the staff. In reality he was probably only 86. Now, 8 years later the nursing home believes he's 114, when he's probably only 94.

Thoughts?

His 1994 voting card lists his age as "86", so we can be sure that he was consistent about his claimed age for at least 28 years. 

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Who is this "family" they're referring to? Every report I've read has implied that he doesn't have any family members (he never married or had kids) and was "rescued" by the Integral Development of Families (DIF) of Colima in 2015 after being found wandering the streets alone. 

I imagine he's much younger than claimed, but I would be surprised if he were only 94, especially considering he already looked quite old nearly 30 years ago. Have you ever seen a 94 year old who looks like this? I imagine he's probably around 104.

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Age 104 for him sounds reasonable. This would mean that he was 76 rather than 86 in the 1994 voting card photo above, which sounds reasonable.

FWIW, even if he doesn't have a wife or kids, he could still have living siblings, nieces, nephews, et cetera.