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Recently announced validations, all retroactively accepted in either July 2016 or in 2023.

Sabina Zieg, USA, 12 Nov 1872 - 1 Dec 1984, 112 years and 19 days. *

Helene Pratte Blake, CAN/USA, 23 June 1902 - 4 Sept 2012, 110 years and 73 days.

Mollie Walker, UK, 5 Feb 1909 - 22 Jan 2022, 112 years and 351 days.

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* Please note the erroneous misspelling of her name by the GRG:

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Recently announced validations, all seemingly retroactively accepted in either 2020 or 2022.

Ralph Hoare, UK, 19 July 1908 - 29 Jan 2019, 110 years and 194 days.

Gertrude Kingston, UK, 1 Feb 1909 - 28 July 2021, 112 years and 177 days.

Damaris Bryant, JAM/UK, 12 May 1909 - 29 Apr 2020, 110 years and 353 days.

Eileen Ash, UK, 30 Oct 1911 - 3 Dec 2021, 110 years and 34 days.

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Recent validations, accepted on 22 and 23 January 2024:

Clarice Patterson, USA, 29 Dec 1912 - Present, 111+ years.

Solange Demorgny, FRA, 10 Mar 1913 - Present, 110+ years.

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These validations should put total validated numbers back to roughly where we were on 31 December, before the usual heavy January losses commenced.Β 


   
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Posted by: @chrisr
These validations should put total validated numbers back to roughly where we were on 31 December, before the usual heavy January losses commenced.Β 

These supercentenarians had already previously been validated by LQ (Patterson) and by the ESO (Demorgny), so they were already appearing on the list of validated SCs. πŸ™‚

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Recent validation, accepted on 24 January 2024:

Denise Leroy, FRA, 3 July 1913 - Present, 110+ years. (Already previously validated by ESO.)

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Recently announced validation, retroactively validated on 31 December 2021:

Joyce Wooding, UK, 6 Sept 1911 - 9 Jan 2022, 110 years and 125 days. (Already previously validated by ESO and recognised by LQ.)

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Recently announced validations, retroactively accepted in July 2016:

Cora Lambeth, USA, 19 Mar 1884 - 20 Apr 1996, 112 years and 32 days.

Isabel Dryden, CAN, 16 Oct 1888 - 20 July 2000, 111 years and 278 days. (Previously validated by LQ.)

Iva Pressey, USA, 31 Jan 1890 - 22 Feb 2002, 112 years and 22 days.

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Recent validation, accepted on 26 January 2024:

Hazel Schultz, CAN/USA, 12 Jan 1913 - Present, 111+ years. (Previously validated by LQ.)

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Recent validation, accepted on 26 January 2024:

Hazel Schultz, CAN/USA, 12 Jan 1913 - Present, 111+ years. (Previously validated by LQ.)

There is no publicly available information on her maiden name and parents' names, and they only validated her due to my research, which involved me scouring census records and newspaper articles to locate. It's hilarious to see Oliver take credit for "validating" her case when all he did was read my post to get the necessary information.

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Profile picture: Marita Camacho QuirΓ³s (1911-Present)


   
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Posted by: @mendocino

Posted by: @marco

Recent validation, accepted on 26 January 2024:

Hazel Schultz, CAN/USA, 12 Jan 1913 - Present, 111+ years. (Previously validated by LQ.)

There is no publicly available information on her maiden name and parents' names, and they only validated her due to my research, which involved me scouring census records and newspaper articles to locate. It's hilarious to see Oliver take credit for "validating" her case when all he did was read my post to get the necessary information.

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Also, I'm pretty sure of all of their bios and photos on the GRG website are directly copied from the gerontology wiki

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Recent validations, accepted on 27 and 28 January 2024:

Lola VΓ‘zquez DΓ­az, PAN, 1 May 1911 - Present, 112+ years.

Mary Petrosky, USA, 14 Jan 1913 - Present, 111+ years.

(These women have previously been validated by LAS/LQ.)

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Recently announced validations, retroactively accepted in August 2016:

Nellie Cline, USA, 4 Dec 1863 - 9 Feb 1975, 111 years and 67 days. (Previously validated by LQ.)

Sidney Harvey, USA, 5 May 1883 - 7 May 1995, 112 years and 2 days.

Mabel Richardson, UK/USA, 27 July 1890 - 2 Mar 2001, 110 years and 218 days. (Previously validated by ESO and recognised by LQ.)

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Recent validations, accepted on 29, 30, and 31 January, as well as on 1 February 2024:

Pauline Cook, USA, 30 Mar 1913 - Present, 110+ years. (Already validated by LQ.)

Lois Boston, USA, 10 May 1913 - Present, 110+ years. (Already validated by LQ.)

Lucille Marusek, USA, 16 May 1913 - Present, 110+ years.

Panchita Moreno DΓ­az, MEX, 3 Dec 1913 - 5 Jan 2024, 110 years and 33 days. (Already validated by LQ.)

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Recently announced validations, retroactively accepted in August and September 2016:

Theophilus May, UK, 5 Jan 1861 - 2 Dec 1971, 110 years and 331 days. (Already validated by the ESO. Please note that the original baptismal record does not state of date of birth, and that an original birth certificate does not exist, so his date of birth cannot be validated with the highest degree of certainty.)

Henry Hannah, USA, 13 Mar 1868 - 7 May 1978, 110 years and 55 days.

Esther Mitchener, USA, 17 Aug 1871 - 13 Apr 1983, 111 years and 239 days. (Already validated by LQ.)

Bertie Thierry, USA, 22 Apr 1880 - 8 Feb 1992, 111 years and 292 days.

Luella Sanford, CAN, 18 May 1889 - 15 June 2000, 111 years and 28 days.

Darthular Garner, USA, 31 July 1890 - 8 Mar 2002, 111 years and 220 days. *

Clara Sutton, USA, 14 Mar 1901 - 26 Aug 2012, 111 years and 165 days.

Katie Reed, USA, 20 Jan 1902 - 15 Oct 2013, 111 years and 268 days.

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* Please note the GRG has gone for a 3 July 1890 DOB, based on the SSA and SSDI listing. However, these records have, in general, been proven to be notoriously unreliable - and a "1" (from 31 to 3) could easily have gone unnoticed. In addition, both records were issued more than 75 years after Mrs Garner's birth, whereas her gravestone specifically shows a 31 July birthdate. Finally, the GRG has always gone for the most conservative option, so I am not sure why the GRG has opted for a different approach here.

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Between validations of GRG we can find also Ms. Marie-Jeanne Dressayre (FRA) (Aug. 30, 1913 - Living, 110) (accepted on 25 Jan. 2024).

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Recent validation, accepted on 2 February 2024:

Elvira Maurno Valladao, BRA, 31 Dec 1911 - 29 Dec 2023, 111 years and 363 days. (Already validated by LQ.)

Overduidelijk misschien.


   
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Recently announced validation, retroactively accepted on 16 September 2016:

Melva Radcliffe, USA, 3 Mar 1901 - 31 Aug 2012, 111 years and 181 days.

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Recent validation, accepted on 3 February 2024:

Horace Baumer, USA, 17 Dec 1913 - 30 Dec 2023, 110 years and 13 days. (Already validated by LQ.)

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Recent Validation, accepted on 4 February 2024:

Tripolino Giannini, Italy, 30 Aug 1912 - 31 Dec 2023, 111 years, 133 days.(Already validated by LQ.)


   
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Recently announced validations, retroactively accepted on 19, 22, and 25 September 2016:

Sue Blanton, USA, 3 Feb 1870 - 14 Apr 1981, 111 years and 70 days. (Already validated by LQ.)

Cecelia Kelly, USA, 13 Feb 1891 - 4 Aug 2002, 111 years and 172 days.

Alma Minton, USA, 8 Dec 1896 - 7 Jan 2008, 111 years and 30 days.

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Recent validations, accepted on 5 and 6 February 2024:

Annie Samphire, UK, 8 July 1913 - Present, 110+ years. (Already validated by the ESO and recognised by LQ.)

Maria Gauvin, FRA, 22 Aug 1913 - Present, 110+ years. (Already validated by the ESO.)

Overduidelijk misschien.


   
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Recently announced validations, retroactively accepted on 1, 4, 7, and 10 October 2016:

Louise Begley, USA, 8 Apr 1866 - 16 Apr 1977, 111 years and 8 days. (Previously validated by LQ.)

Anna Gillette, USA, 5 Aug 1890 - 21 Nov 2001, 111 years and 108 days.

Margaret Linehan, IRL/USA, 27 Apr 1892 - 18 Feb 2003, 110 years and 297 days.

Florence Anderson, UK, 11 Jan 1903 - 20 Mar 2013, 110 years and 68 days. (Previously validated by the ESO and recognised by LQ.)

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Recent validations, accepted on 7, 8, and 9 February 2024:

Angela Hutor, FRA/UK, 12 Aug 1913 - Present, 110+ years. (Previously validated by the ESO and recognised by LQ.)

Blanche Masson, FRA, 9 Jan 1914 - Present, 110+ years.

Ottilie-Armilde Tinnuri, EST, 3 Feb 1914 - Present, 110+ years.

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Nice to see a validated Estonian supercentenarian!

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Recent revalidation: the GRG has now also discovered that Anna Traxler was indeed born on 4 January 1893 (as opposed to 12 December 1892) and has corrected its mistake (link - the announcement still contains a lot of grammatical mistakes, though).

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Recently announced validation, retroactively accepted on 13 October 2016:

Gladys Anderson, USA, 28 June 1902 - 3 Dec 2012, 110 years and 158 days.

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Recent validation, accepted on 10 February 2024:

Marie Deffay, FRA, 18 Sept 1913 - Present, 110 years. (Already validated by the ESO.)

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Recently announced validation, retroactively accepted on 16 October 2016:

Mary Bailey, UK, 17 Dec 1902 - 12 June 2013, 110 years and 178 days. (Already validated by the ESO and recognised by LQ.)

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Recent validation, accepted on 11 February 2024:

Sam Goustille, FRA, 12 Oct 1913 - Present, 110+ years. (Already ESO-validated.)

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Recently announced validation, retroactively accepted on 19 October 2016:

Catherine Dion, CAN/USA, 26 July 1901 - 21 June 2012, 110 years and 331 days.

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Recent validation, accepted on 12 February 2024:

CΓ©cile Marchais, FRA, 17 Oct 1913 - Present, 110+ years. (Already validated by the ESO.)

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Posted by: @marco

Recent revalidation: the GRG has now also discovered that Anna Traxler was indeed born on 4 January 1893 (as opposed to 12 December 1892) and has corrected its mistake (link - the announcement still contains a lot of grammatical mistakes, though).

They must have surely known that the true birth date had already been discovered and verified elsewhere? Are they trying so hard to pretend no other organisation or researchers exist that they're willing to knowingly verify an individual with a wrong birth date and then 'discover' it is wrong themselves weeks later?

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Recent validations, accepted on 13 and 14 February 2024:

Santos Fierro, MEX/USA, 22 July 1913 - Present, 110+ years. (Already validated by LQ.)

Rosina Caulkett, UK, 13 Nov 1913 - Present, 110+ years. (Already validated by the ESO and recognised by LQ.)

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Recently announced validations, retroactively accepted on 22 and 28 October 2016:

Gertrude Gilham, CAN, 14 July 1886 - 3 Oct 1996, 110 years and 81 days.

Rose Bicknell, UK, 31??? July 1903 - 8 Sept 2013, 110 years and 57??? days.

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Note how according to the GRG, Rose Bicknell was born on 31 July 1903 (wrong!) and died on 8 September 2013 at an age of 110 years and 57 days (which doesn't match a 31 July DOB). Also note, for convenience's sake, that lately they've been adjusting acceptance dates for previously validated cases, such as the one for Lucile Randon (who was validated on 26 October 2016, NOT 25 - but 25 matches the 3-day rhythm in which cases were "validated" at the time (even though these dates were just randomly assigned in 2024). Hypocritically, one date that hasn't been changed is Olive Boar's acceptance date, because at the time living SCs were not validated under the age of 112 (even though, retroactively, the GRG has now been validating SCs who were alive at the time but under the age of 112, such as Marion Hunter).

There's so much to say about this, but why even bother? I reckon Robert is fuming about the way the GRG is currently being run.

And watch Rose Bicknell's age magically being corrected once they've read this post.

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They must have surely known that the true birth date had already been discovered and verified elsewhere? Are they trying so hard to pretend no other organisation or researchers exist that they're willing to knowingly verify an individual with a wrong birth date and then 'discover' it is wrong themselves weeks later?Β 

Of course they've known. How do you think they've gained information on many cases they didn't know about before? (The Gerontology Wiki, for instance, suddenly displays the correct information for Leola Porter - such as full name, maiden name, state and date of birth, and correct date of death - even though this information is only shown on LongeviQuest's biographical page for her; so expect Leola Porter to be validated by the GRG too, in the future, even though they needed LongeviQuest to help them out - because it is a current GRG correspondent/shadow admin who's added this info to Mrs Porter's profile page.)

Also note, for instance, that they've now turned Rosa Micaela Puertas pending with a wrong year of birth, based on wrongly found information by them.

This deliberate move, spreading false information without proof (called 'assertion,' a propaganda technique, is an often-employed tactic that's been well-utilised before, such as by Donald Trump - deny something or someone exists for a long enough period of time, or play dirty ("Crooked Hillary"), and repeat it often enough and people will eventually believe you. The other day I read a comment from a user on the 110 Club that said LongeviQuest was only better at validating Japanese cases, even though over here [the GSF] we have often pointed out the mistakes that the GRG has been making for the past couple of months / since Robert's stepping down. It's not just Japanese cases that LQ is much more reliable at.

Moreover, because of the GRG's rule over the Gerontology Wiki they can get away with a LOT, because there's no other Wiki currently large enough to be a serious contender (and most people unfortunately turn to a Wiki for reference, rather than to a credible source). And just look at the censorship they're committing; it's baffling and mind-boggling, most of the time.

I know they're mostly acting out of spite and will probably say "but look at the others" when we point at their misdoings (because they still erroneously, obstinately and willfully blindly believe we [LQ/the ESO/GRG correspondents and admins who understandably left a badly managed GRG] are guilty of whatever they have libelously accused us of - another smart move on their part), but they're not seeing that this coordinated, plotted, and schemed management will ultimately be detrimental to their own reputation. They're validating people with wrong dates of birth, they're validating incomplete cases, they're validating SCs with retroactive dates so they can claim they were the first ones... basically, they're rushing now because of their desire to stay relevant. But at what cost?

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@marco They are becoming ridiculous. And the person who is validating the SCs in such an approximate way isn't even entirely to blame: he can't even understand the mess he's ended up in.

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Very well said, @marco and @ale76

While the SCs they're validating are (mostly) true/correct, I just can't take them seriously anymore. Look at Sara Camarena!

And notice how Waclaw's back to being inactive on the GW now that he's succeeded in his censorship of LQ, ESO etc. I've been both amused and disappointed watching him, Dejan, and BrianTimmy drive the GW into the ground. Dejan told another GW user recently to "smoke a ****" and said he would leave the wiki for good. He's still there, removing harmless content and acting like nothing happened, and of course Waclaw hasn't kicked him out of the GRG or at least revoked his moderator status. That speaks volumes.

Under Robert's leadership, the GRG was apocalyptically slow, but there were little to no mistakes. Now they've sped up, but mistakes are being made constantly. It seems to me that Ollie has been shoehorned into a position he is not cut out for. I believe that he has no malicious intent, he just lacks experience and it shows. Either that or he's just following Waclaw's orders.

I'm surprised they haven't addressed our addressing of their errors on the WSF. "The GRG is a non-profit scientific organisation that has been operating for 34 years, our cases are meticulously verified and examined by a team of dedicated correspondents. No mistakes are present in validated cases." That's what I imagine Waclaw would say.


   
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Inappropriate content + the ensuing discussion moved to the Admin section of the forum (only accessible to Admin + team of moderators).

@sailor-haumea: request seen and in consideration; expect an outcome tomorrow so all of the moderators will have time to share their opinion on the matter.

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To everyone, please refrain from continuing the discussion that was held in the moved posts. Thank you.


   
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Recent validation, accepted on 15 February 2024:

Dorothy Reed, USA, 9 June 1913 - Present, 110+ years. (Already validated by LQ.)

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Recently announced validation, retroactively accepted on 31 October 2016:

Florence Canonic, USA, 8 Feb 1902 - 25 Dec 2012, 110 years and 321 days.

Note how the GRG claims she died in California, even though she died in Nevada (as supported by all available evidence).

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Also note how the GRG has swiftly, mysteriously, and above all quietly changed the date of birth for Rose Bicknell...

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Recent validation, accepted on 16 February 2024:

Edith Fletcher, USA, 8 Sept 1913 - Present, 110+ years. (Already validated by LQ.)

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Recently announced validation, retroactively accepted on 3 November 2016:

Lena Markham, USA, 25 Oct 1888 - 24 Feb 1999, 110 years and 122 days.

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